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Israel's Defence Minister Yaov Gallant has ordered the complete closure of the Gaza Strip, including a ban on the entry of food, water, fuel or access to electricity as Israel intensifies its bombardment of the besieged Strip in the wake of the surprise attack by the Palestinian resistance. His comments have drawn criticism for advocating collective punishment of Gaza's entire civilian Palestinian population in breach of international law.


Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant ordered an increase in intensity of airstrikes in the Gaza Strip.

Gallant said that the war Israel is fighting against Hamas is “a war for our future.”

He added: “Exacting a heavy price from the enemy is a necessary condition for our existence in the region.”

Gallant makes the comments during a visit to the Israeli Air Force’s underground command centre at the Israeli occupation forces headquarters in Tel Aviv.

link: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231009-israeli-minister-we-are-fighting-human-animals/

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 year ago (11 children)

He’s dehumanizing the many over the acts of a few. He’s just trying to make it easier to justify the ramping up of their genocide.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

THIS! When those in power start dehumanizing others, you know there's killing coming. Hotel Rwanda is a great history lesson on this.

It feels like a great time for everyone to take a massive chill pill.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Israel: we literally don't think people in Gaza are human

Westerners: I can't tell the difference between the two sides!

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the western leader support this war crime instead of stopping it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Seeing as Americans Canadians and many other nationalities were killed in the attack by hamas. That was a foregone conclusion. It would have been unusual if these countries don't respond to support those attacked.

I cannot support hamas's attack. I can absolutely blame Israel for creating the conditions that brought it about. When the average age of someone in Gaza is 19. And there wasn't some sort of population boom 19 years ago. Something is seriously fucked up.

Two wrongs don't make a right. And I wish the United States was largely going to stay out of the cluster fuck Israel has created. But with Americans dead. As I said that was not going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Strange, terrorist organization don't seem to pop up in countries with better human rights.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's a meaningless label. Who decided they were terrorists? You?

If killing civilians is the requirement to be terrorists, every single military on Earth is a terrorist organization. That's what war IS.

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[–] Bread 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can pop up anywhere. Terrorism occurs when extremists of any type had enough of whatever they are upset about and it pushes them over the edge. Whether it is reasonable or not. Regular people can also be pushed to do terrible things with just the right amount of propaganda and other emotional manipulation. Some people just enjoy it.

Believing it cannot happen to you too with enough pressure and lies is wrong.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You have a good point I was a bit too black and white with my comment. There definitely seems to be a correlation between size and violence of terrorist groups, and the human rights of the area they riside in.

Also totally agree that it can happen to me. Gotta acknowledge that you don't really know anything and you are pretty much always just taking someone's word for things. I believe the Earth is round, but I'm just taking people's word for it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Reminder that everyone in this conflict besides Civilians are bad people. Hamas is a terrorist organization. The Israeli government support the genocide of the Palestinian people. Everyone else are just planning to profit from this.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Every group that fights an occupying force gets labeled a terrorist organization.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When Argentina occupied the Falkland Islands, the UK military who fought them weren't described as a terrorist organisation. Not by anyone with an ounce of sense at least, and certainly not by the islanders who's land and homes had been occupied.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Every indigenous group that fights an occupying force gets labeled a terrorist organization.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

How is the UK not the occupying force there? The Falkland Islands are nowhere fucking near us.

[–] mindbleach 1 points 1 year ago

And therefore terrorism's not real. Right? Because it'd be fucking stupid to mess up that basic formal logic, if there were legitimate reasons to describe an action as terrorism, a distinct from other forms of transformative paramilitary action.

'All freedom fighters get called terrorists,' so killing hundreds of civilians at a concert is exactly as defensible as destroying supply lines.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The people fighting against a genocidal state are 'bad people'? 'Terrorists', even?

What exactly is wrong about fighting back against one's own genocide? Should they be peacefully protesting it instead?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reminder that everyone in this conflict besides Civilians are bad people.

Shut the fuck up. Every Israeli "civilian" is complicit in the torture of Palestinians, except for children. Not to mention they're all potential combatants anyway.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

There is literally no difference between oppressor and oppressed, you imbecile you, absolute moron.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

The rebels in star wars are terrorists because they killed civilians living in the death star. They're just as bad as the empire.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Israel: we literally don't consider the people of Gaza to be humans

You: sheesh, I really I can't tell the difference between these two!

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What definition of "terrorist organization" are we using here?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Any of the popular definitions. If they're simply organizations against the government, they're terrorists as Israel basically claims Palestinian land is their own. If they're organizations that use terror, brutality, and fear against citizens to achieve political ends, they're definitely terrorists, and so are the IDF.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

There are non-combatants in this conflict that are bad people. They cheer on the extermination of others. Sometimes that's Hamas or the PLO (they run a fund that gives stipends to families of terrorists). Other times it's certain Israeli Jews who encourage conflict while not risking their own necks because they can claim a religious exemption from military service. They seek an Israel without Palestinian territories, or for that matter Palestinians at all (aka ethnic cleansing).

I'm not saying that non-combatants should be targeted. At the same time, I am saying that just being a civilian does not mean someone lacks blame.

[–] mindbleach 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah... it'd be great if the geopolitical ramifications weren't playing out as terrorism versus war crimes.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

In the Western country that I'm in the propaganda has been flying thick and fast all day today on every single media outlet there is about this. You can tell they're trying to justify a lot of bad things that are about to happen and have already begun.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

This shitbag is a right wing fascist who would make Hitler blush with pride.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

And you're a fuckface for dehumanizing people.

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