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California Gov. Gavin Newsom vetoes bill that would have decriminalized psychedelic mushrooms (apnews.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 195 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"Newsom, a Democrat who championed legalizing cannabis in 2016, said in a statement Saturday that more needs to be done before California decriminalizes the hallucinogens.

“California should immediately begin work to set up regulated treatment guidelines - replete with dosing information, therapeutic guidelines, rules to prevent against exploitation during guided treatments, and medical clearance of no underlying psychoses,” Newsom’s statement said. “Unfortunately, this bill would decriminalize possession prior to these guidelines going into place, and I cannot sign it.”"

At least there's an attempt to have a reasonable explanation.

[–] [email protected] 135 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The whole premise of this veto is that the infrastructure isn't set up for mushrooms to be used as a safe medicine. Which completely ignores the fact that most people who use mushrooms do so recreationally; who gives a shit if it can or can't be used by the medical system? That would be great, but it has no bearing on whether mushrooms should be legalized.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If CA decriminalizes it, everyone would be looking toward the state to see its success or failure. Opponents would try to find any excuse to shut it down whether in CA or other states. So if we can set up guidelines and necessary infrastructure for safe use, both medically and recreationally, it would be better for long term success of psylocybin legalization.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Already legal in Colorado.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oregon too, as I understand it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I believe you are correct that they are similarly decriminalized in Oregon although the particulars do differ a bit as I understand it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Oregon started issuing licenses to treatment facilities this year. It took a few years to get the infrastructure in place and to get professional therapists trained, but facilities are now opening up for treatment.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

And in California, just parts of it. Oakland has outright decriminalization and you can go to smoke shops and buy chocolates. It's still technically illegal in San Francisco, but every large event, or even day in the park, there's some guy walking around openly selling mushrooms and joints.

[–] Immersive_Matthew 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Success or failure? It is already been and has been consumed by millions of people for thousands of years. Seems like it is a success to me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The reason it is even considered to be legalized is the medical use in the first place, not people partying on shrooms. So I donno what youre on about.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (10 children)

It should be legalized because making a fungus illegal is fucking stupid.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

It was fine before people made it illegal.

Was used for centuries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I asked Bing's chatbot who was against the bill (who funded "The California Coalition for Psychedelic Safety and Education"), and this is what it told me.

The California Coalition for Psychedelic Safety and Education does not disclose its sources of funding on its website1. However, some of its members have been involved in other anti-drug campaigns, such as the Drug Free America Foundation and the Partnership for Drug-Free Kids2. These groups have received funding from various sources, including pharmaceutical companies, private foundations, and government agencies2. It is possible that the coalition receives some of its funding from similar sources, but this is not confirmed. The coalition claims to be a grassroots organization of concerned citizens who want to protect public health and safety1.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Did you then go and check all of those facts to make sure the AI wasn't ~~lying~~ "hallucinating" to you?

[–] [email protected] 172 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Boo. Everyone boo this man.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

HAVE YOU SUCKED DICK FOR COKE???

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

RIP Bob Saget

[–] [email protected] 69 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So progressive! /s

Pisses me off. It's California! C'mon!

[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Is California not the state of “progressive oh wait not so far let’s walk it back”? That’s how you’re seen by the east coast progressives at least. It’s like how New York is exactly as progressive as Wall Street permits it to be

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

California is always like the tenth state to do something progressive, not the first.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Based on what examples? California was literally the first state to legalize medical cannabis.

California established the first auto-emission standards in the U.S. in 1966.

In 2008, the California Supreme Court ruled that same-sex couples have the right to marry. Although the controversial Proposition 8 temporarily halted this later the same year, the precedent had been set, and it was one of the first states to legally recognize same-sex marriage.

The California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) of 2018 was one of the first comprehensive data privacy laws in the U.S.

California has been at the forefront of raising the minimum wage, aiming for $15 an hour before many other states.

Newsom punted and he shouldn't have, but your comment is nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

True. It just pats itself on the back like Michigan, Washington, and Colorado didn’t beat it to the punch

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Newsom dialing back the progressivism for his presidential run.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 10 months ago

California registered voters,

Consider signing this petition. This group needs help getting funding to use psychedelics to treat mental health. They need 1 million signatures and it must be done via wet signatures.

Read up at this link and if it sounds like something you support, please sign.

https://www.treatcalifornia.org/

[–] [email protected] 56 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like the pharmaceutical companies are still investing in governments.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

This just Newsom wanting to keep his chances for a future Presidential bid alive. Don't want to see attack ads about him being on shrooms.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago

While it remains illegal on the state and national level, some cities in California have already decriminalized. San Francisco, Oakland, Berkeley and Santa Cruz. Come take your next trip in the Bay area!

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Signs a few good things, vetoes a few good things

Why can't we just get a solidly good governor for a while and not one that oscillates between "ok enough" and "frustrating"

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

At least there are periods of "ok enough". We're stuck with Eric Adams the landlord cop in NYC

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago

Newsom supporting the war on drugs. 🤢

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago

Gavin Newsom failed America by vetoing that bill.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago

Damn, he's just been vetoing everything lately. Gotta love that race toward the centre.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Newsom's "centrist" tribute to the late Sen. Dianne Feinstein.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

Goddammit

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

"Advocates are attempting to place two initiatives to expand psychedelic use on the November 2024 ballot. One would legalize the use and sale of mushrooms for people 21 and older"

FYI that's Decriminalize California and their signature collection campaign is in full swing. https://decrimca.org/

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Letting perfect be the enemy of good... again.

[–] burntbutterbiscuits 13 points 10 months ago

Gavin Newsom, corporate whore, wannabe esq

[–] sentient_loom 8 points 10 months ago

Dammit

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Just grow them yourself it's easy enough

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah yeah, we know. It’s also illegal, which means there are real nasty consequences for getting caught with them. Decriminalizing them would have reduced those real nasty consequences and made it much simpler to grow and possess your own.

Somebody fixing up their PTSD doesn’t need the fuzz coming down on them, regardless of how easy it is to grow the treatment.

Neither does someone who just wants to trip balls because that’s what they want to do this weekend.

[–] CaptainEffort 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I mean is it? Tbh it sounds like a nightmare trying to keep everything at the right temp and from contaminating.

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