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Why YSK: Beehaw defederated from Lemmy.World and Sh.itjust.works effectively shadowbanning anyone from those instances. You will not be able to interact with their users or posts.

Edit: A lot of people are asking why Beehaw did this. I want to keep this post informational and not color it with my personal opinion. I am adding a link to the Beehaw announcement if you are interested in reading it, you can form your own views. https://beehaw.org/post/567170

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[–] icepuncher69 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

Nice. Its been just 2 days for me using lemmy and im already banned for no reason in an entire server that i do not use just because im in another server. I whana say reddit moment but im getting mixed info into their reasoning. Some say its because they cant mod that much people and just defederated temporarilly while they fix stuff and others say their a radical echochamber that doesnt tolerate any slight deviants. So i dont know what to believe. If any of ya m8s could enligthen me some more that'l be sweet. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Last I checked, their reason for defederating is to avoid the high influx of new wildcard users from large instances without vetting processes.

As for the radical echo chamber part, I can't say for sure because I didn't actually interact with them but I recall the term they make you agree to apply for an account was somewhat vague, possibly allowing arbitrary bans to enforce an echo chamber.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (17 children)

This is a bit of a bummer since I'm interested in a lot of the beehaw communities. Should users just make separate accounts to interact with beehaw communities?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (5 children)

If you don't want to color with your opinion, use a different word than shadowban. They didn't do this with malice as the connotations of that word would imply.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (18 children)

Aren't you only "shadow banned" from users of that instance? Wouldn't folks federated with your instance still see your comments?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I could just log in to BeeHaw...

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (42 children)

Is there any reason for them defederating?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

The most trolls came from those two instances since they have no criteria to joining and they have so many users, and beehaw prides itself on being a nice, safe space. Lemmy currently doesn't have the moderating tools to empower them to take care of all the new, toxic redditors, but they said they're willing to federate with them when it does, which I'm sure it will eventually.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

They basically shadowbanned us because they are lazy... jokes aside, they don't have the manpower to moderate all the bots away. At least that's their reasoning.

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