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I hate battle royale games. Every time I play them i get anxious and nervous, I cant take it anymore

I have played Apex Legends since it came out and I have about 900h between both steam and origin (mostly played during covid).

Since I stopped playing this rage games I feel much better

Tell me what you think of battle royale games in the comments if you want

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think for me, the main frustration is the way those games are structured. You run around for a few minutes and when you finally have decent equipment, someone shoots you out of nowhere and you get kicked out, have to requeue and start over again.

On the other hand, when I die in Overwatch, Valorant, Counter Strike, Quake, Unreal Tournament (yes, I'm old...) I know that I'll be back in the action in a few seconds, I didn't lose much progress and I can still win this.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You need cozy game time. It’s not good to add a lot of stress in the pursuit of entertainment! If it doesn’t bring you joy it’s not worth your time. I’m looking at you, League of Legends.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Agreed. At one point, I just quit all royale-type games, because there was enough stress in my life; especially when I worked on a computer all day. I needed a break from it. The smart move would have been playing an IRL sport of some kind, but I eluded that once again, and instead joined a modded Rust PvE server where I just run around the forest and chase chickens. That worked.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Not hating on people who like and enjoy PvP games, but to me it feels like it's a good way for a developer to make a game that doesn't actually have that much substance. Lacking content? Nothing to actually do in the game? NPCs are difficult to make interesting to fight? Just have players shoot each other. It's basically content that creates itself, not to mention (if you have good matchmaking) the difficulty ramps up naturally without you having to write better enemy AI.

I just want to fight stuff alongside other people, rather than potentially making another person's day just a little worse because I shot them before they shot me, you know? Is that too much to ask?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dev difficulties are still there and not the same. Don't understimate netcode, or just simply gun feel, balancing, map design, sound design. Those are very difficult to get right even if you do not have to write a story or code NPCs. Each games have different challenges.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have a point about less content development time. But don't underestimate the complexity of getting the netcode right and balancing the PVP system.

It's more like trading one set of problems for another, than it is a cop-out.

Plenty of games that lack substance in any category.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, online competitive games just feel like I'm sitting an exam nowadays. I can do without the stress.

Also it feels like you spend ages running around in an empty field with nothing happening interspersed with seconds of not that great shooting gameplay

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I stopped playing any game that makes me rage, because my dogs react as if I'm angry with them - since it's just me and them in the room, obviously I must be mad with them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Had this exact problem with my cat, didn't rage-rage (slamming desk/mouse/keyboard have never been my thing) but I became irritated and she picked up on it. Her reaction was biting my hands, which took me too long to realise that it was a form to get me off the keyboard.

I switched from PC to console/playstation and I'm more chill playing in the couch, it doesn't get me irritated and it's just an all around more relaxing experience, the competitive scene especially on PC can be very toxic.

Cat stopped biting me, which is a huge plus also, because that little lovely shit really can bite hard.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I wanted you to know, I checked your username after I read your comment and it made me laugh.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel the same about PvP in games in general. I just wanna vibe, maybe hang out with friends, and the sweat that comes from going against other people actively detracts from that.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I play pretty much everything. Some of my friends rage quit stuff when Im still 100% calm.

When it comes to BRs specifically, they can be very frustrating. Your winrate is inevitably low, due to there only being “one” winner per match, still me and my friends enjoy both Apex and Hunt: Showdown.

In both cases we started having a lot more fun when we started taking the games much less seriously, and not caring about whether the game told us we won.

In Apex, instead of wins, we’d count squad wipes. We began playing much more aggressively, not caring as much about out gear, and going TOWARDS action instead of away from it. This led to less time “wasted” meaning if we died, we did so fast and early, and so wed get to the next game faster. If we won, we’d score gear off the players we just defeated.

Similarly, in Hunt we’d head towards the first firefight we could hear, and either get kills or get killed. Pretty much always playing free hunters with cheap loadouts we wouldn’t care about losing.

And never, ever, even considered caring about or grinding rank.

I play to maximize fun, not progress. I min/max for enjoyment, not stats. It’s one of the reasons I have chat entirely disabled in Overwatch, voice and text, because I don’t wanna hear it if someone is screaming at me over my pick. I don’t care. I here to have a good time.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

BRs are a game type that sounds awesome to me on paper but I never end up actually enjoying. Too much time with nothing happening with it all to just abruptly end. It's a cool idea I think. Just not for me

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I've never played multiplayer games in my childhood (long story), and the first multiplayer I've really tried was PUBG Mobile. I've been hooked on it for about three years and made some online friends over it. when EA made Apex Legends available on Linux last year I've switched to it and clocked about 600 hours since then. I really enjoy the BR format, and even though I've never tried a competitive shooter like Counter Strike or Valorant (fuck their intrusive anticheat by the way), running exactly the same lines on the same map and constantly holding the same angles and hoping to just outreact the opponent by a milisecond doesn't appeal to me.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I personally stopped playing any multiplayer games. I don't know what it started happening, but it feels like everything went from casual fun, to grindy bullshit and competitive sweatfest.

Maybe it's just me, I put too much pressure on myself, but I know that it wasn't there before. I used to be able to play without feeling this intense pressure of being good, because I didn't want to be a burden for my team and didn't want to be insulted by virulent players.

BR games were the worst for this. The longer you are alive, the more pressure builds up. Things could be going smoothly, you're not crossing even one enemy, and all of the sudden: it's just you and your friends, versus another team. You make one wrong move, and it's over. It's over, and it's your fault. I can't do that. I can't handle the pressure of being responsible for this. Feeling like I've ruined and wasted their time.

I play to have fun. To relax. I was never getting angry. But my friends, they did. They were nice to me, we're still friends after all, I wouldn't have tolerated abuse. But I could tell, I wasn't as good as them, and they hated losing when we were playing games. They would get angry, and the pressure of doing good was getting to me. It stopped being fun, and it didn't used to be this way. So I stopped.

I only play single player games now. It's been a really long time since I played online. Although, I sometimes think of going back to Titanfall 2, it is still one the greatest FPS ever made in my opinion, and I just adored it, I was really good at it too.

But yeah. I never get angry and rarely feel pressured now when playing a game and losing. No one is going to insult me, or berate me, and I am not dragging anyone down. If I do get angry, it is because some bullshit is happening. Like the game pulled a Mario Kart on me, and decided that I was going to lose because that's the way it is I guess.

I feel like you made the right move. It shouldn't be this way, it shouldn't make you feel this bad, and if it is, then you should quit. It's not your fault, it may even not be the game's fault, it doesn't have to be anyone's or anything's fault. If it's just better for you, then do it.

I suggest to check out some single player games, there is a lot of them. Lots of variety. :)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I can honestly go one step further and say I'm just tired of shooters. Unfortunately that seems to be all my friends want to play, so I typically just hang out in voice and chat instead of game with them nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't understand why br games always focus on being fast, that's exactly the opposite of what I would want out of that experience. If I want a fast action game I can play any team death match, a br game is something that I want to get invested into my run to raise the stakes for the end.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

In my mind, it's because the game developers are catering to the "short attention span" gamers, which I think is a pretty large chunk. They want to get to "playing" fast and want that instant gratification.

In Apex Legends, there are hotspots where half the lobby drops, and you either are the one team out of four or five that comes out alive, or you die pretty immediately and have to queue up for the next game. It's just a different style of playing, which I don't fully understand.

But then again, I also don't want to drop in the middle of nowhere and loot for 20 minutes. I want moderate-paced action; an initial fight with one or two teams, then slowly rotate around the map picking intelligent fights where we can.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I feel like as I get older, I prefer action games that reward strategic placement and high level decisions, rather than the precise millisecond actions.

Things like bunny hopping/sliding in Apex, lean spamming in R6S, etc, tend to make most shooters unappealing to me. Even a game like Deceive Inc has the general idea of stealthy strategy, but in the end all that matters is landing headshots.

Theoretically, this would mean I’d like “realistic” squad warfare FPSes, but those aren’t really aimed for fun. Mostly I’d like an arcadey shooter with movement abilities, but one that has you make decisions between offense, movement, defense; not spam multiple at once.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could look into 'Hunt Showdown' it's a slower pace br where the main objective is to track and hunt a monster on the map. Other teams (or solo players) are all tracking the same monster. There are times where you're tracking the monster and end up having to fight a team instead. It's a game that mixes PVE and PvP elements quite well.

The game focuses on weapons of different caliber bullets, bullet drop, awareness of sounds/audio queues, and bullets actually pack a punch. You're not a bullet sponge.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have awareness as that one, but same issue as Insurgency as I mentioned; people who try to engage with the enemies will give away their position to the incredibly idle players, who then have a strong surprise advantage since the swamp has so many places to hide.

It doesn’t help that I’ve heard the developers have a somewhat toxic relationship with their playerbase.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'd like to recommend Insurgency Sandstorm for you, as it sits right in the middle of CoD-like shooters and tactical, milsim shooters... but I have myself soured out of it a while ago due to how it's handled by the devs that remained. I did have a fun time with Arma 3, but that required a group to make operations with, and 300GB of disk space for mods. Other kinds of action shooter games that could work are slower paced, vehicle or mech based games, but right now I can't think of a single one that is well maintained and populated.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I think the problem is in your head, apex is a relaxing game for me. Not that I wouldn’t take it seriously but I don’t invest anything into it mentaly.

[–] mcc 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most competitive games stresses me out. I have probably 1k hours in WoT and WoWS. I know I should be enjoying the small moments and not worry about winning as much, but I just can't do it.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally I can't stand the gearing up phase of BR. So boring to have to find weapons every time only to get taken out by some guy more skilled than you

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think BRs are fine, I'm just glad that the market has moved away from the BR mania that it was once in. BRs intrinsically need a large player base to succeed and it was exhausting hearing about this "sick new BR" only for it to shut down 6-8 months later

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly, it's mostly a mindset change. I very recently picked up fortnite with some friends. Running quads is more of a "let's see if we can bully people with weird strats" instead of "I need to win or I'm not having fun." Its more about dicking around with friends and having fun than winning everything. Chances are you are not making money by playing, so why be concerned about it?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Never "got" battle royale. Except. EXCEEPT. CS:GO dangerzone and (lmao) the BR mode of Fallout 76. Those are fun. Apex did not feel anywhere near as fun as those.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't played any game with PvP in like a decade. I think WoW turned me off from them.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I played Tarkov for a solid 3 or 4 months. The game itself is beautiful and raw. It's got the best weapon modification system I've ever seen. The sounds are top tier, especially when you consider the realistic differences the headsets to muffle or amplify sounds.

The downfall is the other players. The net code sucks so bad and the cheaters are rampant. The game suffers a lot for this. The reason most battle royals have high TTK is because losing instantly to someone is a terrible feeling, so to prevent this you have a ton of health and shields to at least give you a fighting chance.

Tarkov doesn't give a shit about that. You can spend 15 mins putting your kit together and loading into a raid just to be one tapped by a rat with a mosin shooting SNB. All that work into putting your kit together is wasted and now you've just donated your kit to wherever loots your body.

The SPTarkov mod is the greatest thing to ever happen to Tarkov because it got rid of the worst part of it: the other players.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That's just kind of how I ended up being with anything competitive honestly, especially if it's a huge time sink, which battle royale games tend to be. Even CSGO's "Danger Zone" mode can take like half an hour with just 18 people.

I've found myself missing some of the older shooters I played as a teen like Black Ops II, MW2, Battlefield 3, etc. They're still "competitive" in a sense, but you're not playing for nearly as much as you are in Apex Legends or Fortnite. Plus the matches aren't overly long and you can rejoin the action in seconds depending on the mode. And if you leave a deathmatch, you aren't really losing a whole lot of progress. Pretty much 5 - 10 minutes worth as opposed to 30 minutes to an hour sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I never got into the genre, but in general I just don't really go for competitive multiplayer games anymore. I'll try one every now and then but I don't tend to last for more than a month or two before burnout hits.

I do like playing challenging single player games though.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like games that indulge my poor impulse control and reward risk-taking and recklessness. Battle Royale games seem to be the exact opposite of this, which I think is why they rub me the wrong way. I don't want twenty minutes if waiting only to die in ten seconds, I wanna die over and over for twenty minutes and maybe still win the match.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I've been playing some Fortnite with friends. It's mainly us getting trashed and messing with people.

I found taking it much less seriously increases the fun, but that's just me. Apex is another animal in regards to play style. I can't play it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For me it's more the fact that if you don't play almost everyday, you get absolutely destroyed by people who do.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I dont like battle royales

Most of the time is spent just trying to get equipment or running from point A to point B, and by the time you've spent 15-20 minutes just running, one encounter means you lose

I play CS:GO. I like it because its more constant decision making, and the shorter rounds means less time investment into a single round. But it has gotten so bad with cheaters. I have played CS for over 15 years and yet I constantly run into brand new accounts or accounts that were clearly boosted (500+ commends in each category), bought, and used by cheaters who said that "it was cheaper than rust..." The matchmaking is so atrocious, I have people at the bottom of the ranks on my team and top of the ranks on theirs; the averages arent even close. I'm not playing CS:GO anymore and if CS2 doesnt fix the cheating problem, I'm not going back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's why prefer to avoid PvP games. I'm not good, tbf, and the stress I'm feeling is just too much to handle - my real life is stressful enough, thank you very much...
For example, I would love to experience Sea of Thieves on my own, finding some treasures, fighting skeletons or the Kraken. But the PvP aspect is killing it for me. I'm not entitled to anything, of course. Plenty of people wouldn't enjoy a pure PvE Sea of Thieves, but as far as I'm concerned, that kind of game would bring me back for sure...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're not really my cup of tea so I usually dont try them. The only two battle Royale games i enjoyed though are Tetris 99 and Super Mario 35.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those games seem like they're for the hyper competitive types, and that's just not me. Back when I was in high school in the late 90s we would play the original team fortress over the lan in the computer lab. The best part about it for me was trying to come up with funny things to say in the chat.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I've been unwillingly playing Fortnite for the last two years. I like competitive gaming with friends but big map BR games are just so boring for about 90% of the time you play them. Just soooo much running around. I consider time spent looking for opponents to be pretending to play a game.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is why I don't rank in League. It's ARAMs so long as I can tolerate bad teammates and then Co-op vs AI when I just want to weed & chill

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If you enjoyed apex except for the high stakes format, check out titanfall 2. There's a community made client called northstar which fixes EAstrash servers and offers mods/silly game modes and customization

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the singleplayer in that game is amazing, too. One of the best FPS singleplayers to date.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

100% i should've mentioned that

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Same. They tend to make me angry and frustrated. I see people saying to not take them so seriously which is good advice but I just can't help it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Don't like them. Deathmatch is more fun, and is even better with some Quad Damage

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