The Supreme Court rejects Biden's plan to wipe away $400 billion in student loan debt : worldnews

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Fuck Trump and his supreme court. We're going to be suffering the effects of Republican stupidity for the next 40 years.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you need any reason not to believe in god, it's that Trump got to appoint THREE FUCKING SUPREME COURT JUSTICES

[+] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Justices need to die or retire in order for there to be a vacancy for a President to appoint a new Justice to. There was a vacancy at the start of Trump's term due to a death during Obama's that the Republicans refused to confirm an appointment for, and then there was a retirement (Kennedy) and death (RBG) during his term as well.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For anyone who isn't familiar, RBG was a liberal Supreme Court justice that was getting very old, and a lot of people thought she should have retired during Obama's term, where she could have been replaced by him. Some accuse her of stubbornness/hubris for not stepping down when it was "safe", and point out that her whole legacy is now being undone.

Others point out that common wisdom at the time was that Hillary was going to he a shoe in as the next president, and nobody expected a Republican to win, including RBG.

Anyway, I'm not taking a stance but just fleshing that out for anyone who is interested in the controversy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Others point out that common wisdom at the time was that Hillary was going to he a shoe in as the next president

Just to also point out. This "common wisdom" is part of why Hillary lost and why a lot of people argued that RBG should have resigned during her term because the next Democratic President wasn't a shoe-in, and people couldn't just rely on that.

People also seem to forget that both a Bush and a Clinton were running in 2016 and in a way, Trump being elected was a initially a rejection of "political dynasties" as Presidencies (which then immediately turned to his followers wanting him as a forever king, but that's a different issue entirely). I had a Bush or a Clinton as President for twenty years of my life (roughly a third of the average lifespan for a US citizen). From my youth until I was no longer considered a youth, well into adulthood. I remember being frustrated at being faced with both a Bush and a Clinton in the primaries. I know lots of other people, on both sides of the aisle, did too. Nobody wanted more of the same (I know Hillary didn't view herself as "more of the same" of her husband, and for good reason, but that wasn't common opinion).

The entire thing about it being "common wisdom" was spoken from a position of privilege by elite Democrats and ignoring that common people weren't every excited about either Bush or Clinton but Clinton got shoehorned in anyway while Bush had his "please clap" moment. It's not a shoe-in if you have to use a shoehorn, mind you.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It’s Republican moral bankruptcy and cruelty that we will all suffer. If anyone’s stupidity got us here, it’s the Democratic Party’s stupid leadership since AT LEAST 2000, if not earlier. Republicans have telegraphed their intentions for 50 fuckin years and Democrats continued over and over to attempt reaching across the aisle, trying to pass bipartisan wins, “take the high road,” … all the while the Republican party continued putting their racist, xenophobic, mysoginistic, jingoistic, classist platform out year after year, abandoning all sense of decorum and norms, gerrymandering the fuck out of every district possible, blocking every bill that helps anyone aside from billionaires and corporations, and generally lying and cheating their way to what we have today.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

since AT LEAST 2000

Democrats: It's just a coincidence that two lawyers who worked on the Supreme Court case that handed Bush the election in 2000 happen to be Supreme Court Justices today!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I think, if there's independent historians in the future looking back, they'll be mentioned in the same sentence as Neville Chamberlain often.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But the forgiven PPP loans are A-OK, right? Fuck this shit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

On top of that 1.7 trillion in tax breaks for the rich over ten year. Benifits like 600 people. The same 1.7 trillion could wipe out debt 43 million people and that is debt accumulated over 40 years.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago (20 children)

Yesterday they made higher education less accessible to non-whites, today they made it harder for the poor...

I wonder if there's a pattern here.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Unless the dems take back court we would be all living through a nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

Maybe Hilldawg could have campaigned in Wisconsin or taken seriously that even if she won the popular vote, that the Electoral College actually mattered.

Reminder, she did win the popular vote. The majority did vote for her.

Or maybe Obama could have kept his campaign promise that codifying Roe vs. Wade in law was his first order of business.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This has been the Democrat strategy for a long time now: make wonderful promises they don't intend to keep, then blame everyone else when they don't come to fruition. People keep voting for them despite this obvious fact, because Republicans make terrible promises that they actually try to keep.

We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. The only winning move is to ~~not play~~ flip the table and play a different game.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

Vote! Encourage those around you to vote. Help drive someone to the polls. If you know a young person who's never voted, get them to vote.

Don't care who they vote for, just get them to the ballot box.

The more people vote, the better things turn out for the majority.

[+] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (30 children)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A) They need 50 senators willing to entertain that notion. They only have 49. B) If there were one action that I think would be most likely to kick off Civil War 2, it would be packing the court.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Civil War 2 is already happening, you must not be paying attention.

It's time to rip off the fucking band-aid and do something about it instead of letting the Proud Boys, the Three Percenters, and others run around terrorizing the country through wanton violence and death.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

With that being said, you’re also correct that voting is NOT enough. Protesting and direct action, mutual aid, and more are all required!

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[+] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

If there is a minimum age in government, there needs to be a maximum. I'm over these 70 year olds running things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Downvoted by people who refuse to look at when Democrats make stupid decisions that fuck us.

I thought Lemmy was supposed to be full of tankies, not milquetoast centrist capitalist apologists....

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

He's not wrong, just an asshole.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow. The SCOTUS is firing through all sorts of shitty changes this week. They’re like the koolaid man on meth.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gonna be this way for the foreseeable future

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

OH YEAH!!!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My "favorite" part of the majority ruling is how the loan forgiveness was struck down because it would harm the loan servicers. Not the government, not the people, the companies that have been contracted to collect the loans. That's who SCOTUS is most concerned with. Should tell us everything we need to know about who's interests are most important - capitalists

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How many were paid off by the student loan companies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I was under the impression the student loan companies did not care. They were getting paid regardless.

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