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California Gov. Gavin Newsom has signed a law requiring K-12 schools to provide gender-neutral bathrooms by July 2026.

The new law, Senate Bill 760, was among a series of laws signed by Newsom Saturday to expand protections for the state’s LGBTQ community.

“California is proud to have some of the most robust laws in the nation when it comes to protecting and supporting our LGBTQ+ community,” Newsom said in a statement.

Under the law, “each school district, county office of education, and charter school” would be required to have at least one gender-neutral bathroom on campus on or before July 1, 2026. The bathroom must be available for use during school hours and during school functions when students are present, the law states.

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[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I went to a gender neutral restroom in California a couple months ago. Each toilet was in its own little private room, and there was a common area of sinks for hand washing. My only thought was that all public restrooms should be like that. Even apart from the equal access issue for LGBTQ+ people, why make one gender stand in line when there are unused facilities right next door.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, I just like the privacy anyways. Who wants to make eye contact with someone through the 1in gap in the stall doors?

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it’s literally just better for everyone

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Except for those who desperately want to hurt people they don't like.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Recently went to Paris, and most toilets were like this. It was fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

My only thought was that all public restrooms should be like that.

Agrreed. Sadly, "arrow doesn't turn".

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Just wait until conservatives find out there are already gender neutral bathrooms in their own homes!

Oh the horror!

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (7 children)

i never really got the whole separated toilets thing anyway, it's a toilet, do your thing and skedaddle

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago

we need to redesign toilet stalls to be more private anyways

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (11 children)

My biggest reason for wanting separate bathrooms is the propensity for women to squat and spray the seat. I know guys can make a mess too but usually the women's restroom is dirtier than men's. Also women's restroom is more likely to have a line.

But I'm sure building-wise it would be easier to just make one big bathroom so it should probably be that way, long as it's big enough.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In areas with lots of people it's also about efficiency. Single stall toilets don't work at a train station. A better option is to have two toilets .. one with urinal and one without. Use whichever one you want.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

You mean you don't have signs up in your house for your guests to direct them to entirely different bathrooms?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Disabled, my favorite gender

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[–] bernieecclestoned 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Disabled toilets are already gender neutral, I guess they'll just stick another sign on the door?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

only if they're single-occupant bathrooms. which. for schools... are usually not going to be the case. personally, that should be the solution. just rip out both bathrooms, install single occupant cells. nobody cares what you are. the only sign needed is an 'occupied'/'vacant' on the latch.

(edit: well, you'd still have to have a placard with braille on it so blind people can know what kind of room it is.)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the disabled stalls I’ve encountered (at least in the US) are within the gendered bathrooms. So even if the stall is nominally gender neutral one first has to enter the men’s room or women’s room.

[–] bernieecclestoned 10 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Ah, in the UK the disabled ones are separate and you need a key

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So much of the online bathroom discussion makes more sense when one realises that US public restroom designs are insane.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It really was just a regular bathroom all along.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The gender neutral bathroom was inside here the whole time.

[–] TacoThrash3r 10 points 1 year ago

Can we just have a pee bathroom and a poop bathroom?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Important consequence of this in the context of elementary schools: most little boys don't lift up the seat when they pee and their aim is atrocious. At my kids' school, the gender neutral bathrooms are the toilets of last resort.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (25 children)

So there will stil be regular male/female toilets? In the end I'm kinda whatever about this as long as it's not used as an excuse to remove urinals.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Yes, every gender neutral bathroom I've seen here at elementary schools and college campuses have single occupancy gender neutral bathroom/s next to the men's and women's bathrooms.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I haven't read the text of the law, but unless it explicitly says otherwise, I suspect it will be up to the schools/districts. If they have the money and room to build separate non-gendered bathrooms, then some of them will do so. But I suspect that most will simply convert existing bathrooms and not have gender specific bathrooms at all.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Under the law, “each school district, county office of education, and charter school” would be required to have at least one gender-neutral bathroom on campus on or before July 1, 2026.

Whut?? Why not just make them all human restrooms? How does it takes two+ years to switch some signage and inform people to use whatever door they wish?

I've been living in a city with "gender-neutral" restrooms for so long that I forget what it used to be like. Well, aside from sports and entertainment complexes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

They may want to allow time for remodeling instead of just new signage. Maybe better stalls for actual privacy. I hate the typical stall I see in the US.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can we adopt the It's always sunny sign instead?

"Animal Shit House"

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