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Showerthoughts

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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. A showerthought should offer a unique perspective on an ordinary part of life.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Not just fewer kids. But fewer conservatives too.

Gosh, I love it here.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Conservatives love having corporate masters, so they're all staying on reddit.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know, it's so funny (though obviously not in an enjoyable way per se) how those folks are so selective and picky about freedom. Like freedom is OK when it's the freedom to enter a supermarket without a mask, but it's not OK when it's the freedom to express your gender. And as in this example, when it comes to corporate masters...

Don't you just love capitalism? And don't you just loooooove capitalists? It's honestly frightening how reminiscent it is to the way the fascists took power in 1930s Germany.

And by the way, I'm noticing a parallel with how much they not only embrace conservative evangelical Christendom, but also act like it's the epitome of freedom and liberty - the American Dream, if you will. If you attend one of the US's most notorious fundie schools, you're not allowed to stay up late, mingle with the opposite gender too much, attend dances, or be pretty much anything other than cishet (and implicitly, cishet white male). The irony of how said school is named "LIBERTY" University never seems to die on me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Conservatives love giving lip service to freedom, but they hate anyone actually exercising their freedom.

Basically they only care about appearances and are devoid of any actual substance. That's why they scream "virtue signaling" so much. Since they have no real virtue, they can't conceive of anyone else having any either.

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[–] pancakes 13 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a win-win for everyone.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I’m a teenage FOSS enthusiast and I’m of the opinion that there are a lot more of us here than you seem to all think.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

not speaking for OP but when I think about not wanting "kids" around, I mean immature people. I'm looking to be part of something like the reddit prior to them buying Alien Blue.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (5 children)

how do you do, fellow adults?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Agree. But it's not kids, it's stupid people of all ages. Same thing happened with Reddit and with the Internet as a whole. Used to be you had to be a little smart to know you wanted to be on the Internet and figure out how to get it working. Then same was true of forums and IRC. Then same was true of Reddit. But then Reddit changed formats trying to be a TikTok style quick content scroll app, so idiots who just want to scroll started using the site and quality of discussions went down. I hope Lemmy grows but I hope the sign up process stays as it is, to weed out the extra stupid.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I think you‘re onto something. I read a lot of comments of people thinking the fediverse is too complicated to deal with and while I disagree - but also think it has issues - there does seem to be a barrier of entry for a good portion of people in the form of „inconvenience.“ So whoever is here really wants to be here and not just be an anonymous arse. I don‘t think you gotta be particularly smart, you gotta step out of your comfort zone.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think it's more just because we're early adopters and the first wave of refugees.

We're building something here - and right now, for some it's a new home, for some of us this is something big - a place that resists monetization. This isn't just the fresh new version of social media, built by cool people who have the best intentions and a vision (I think most of them did, at least initially)

Admins go bad, already some of the instances I'm on have people starting to look at not just paying for servers, but making a profit. And if they can live off the donations - fine, more power to them.

But when someone comes knocking with a bag of money, what are they going to do? They can sell us out, but they can't go far before we leave... What do we miss out on? The content will either follow or we're missing out on content elsewhere.

And we can mitigate it further - too many talented people care too much to let this idea die. We're going to face difficult times, but it's a new ephemeral Internet built on top of the one stolen from us - it doesn't start or end with a reddit clone.

And I think that's why we care - because this time is different. It can't go bad the way everything else does. It relies on no one, and it's built from all of us

This place is ours. No kings, no masters, no capitol, no capital

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Lemmy is so good right now because there's no commercialization here.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

My ublock has been at a constant "0" on this site since I've started. A youtube tab will have over a hundred by the end of a 10 minute video.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

For me, It's the lack of advertising. Especially the constant guerilla advertising and flash marketing done in the larger subs.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point I'm just so burnt out on the constant advertisements. It's literally shoved in your face at all times and not only does it make me actively avoid the products but its also exhausting.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Constant advertisements wearing you down? Now there's anti-advertisement spray! Just click here to read our website that totally isn't astroturfing. You too can be without advertising. JUST CLICK HERE!!!

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

For me it is lack of commercial interests (ads hidden in post), lack of bots, and lack of "funny meme and jokes' posts.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

lack of "funny meme and jokes' posts

This is it for me. The Pavlovian posting and upvoting of shitty jokes in every. single. thread. I haven't bothered with reddit's comment section in years because of it. Here, the comments so far seem chill and appropriate for the posts.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

please don't randomly start some ageism crap suddenly now please. the vibes are good because we collectively experience self-efficacy against the corporate super power that is reddit. All people should feel welcome on lemmy

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone on the internet is a dog unless proven otherwise.

I mean...woof.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

OP I think you spelled idiots wrong.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Crow cawed that Lemmy is strong,

Since no kids have yet come along

But the teens disagree

All ages've stupidity

I think you spelled idiots wrong

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I haven't been here much since I joined last week, but one thing I noticed is I've barely seen any typos on Lemmy. While I definitely don't mind seeing the occasional typo, the number of spelling mistakes was getting annoying, and it's gotten progressively worse over the last year or so.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, sometimes on reddit I'd be talking to someone and realize oh... this person is probably 14 or something.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Its always weird to me when I realize not everyone online is ~30 years old.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The internet as a whole got sadder / meaner / more unruly when COVID happened. I was on reddit a lot at the time and noticed it immediately.

It’s still like that, but I hope we find a way forward.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had a lovely conversation with a 19 yr old. He kind of reminded me of myself, only growing up in this crazy time. He was really thoughtful about his experiences. Any one here now is probably a touch more mindful, but we can all slip and be dumb or even bad people, and when there's more people, it's easier to do, especially when there are people who are sad or mad or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is that considered a kid? Just curious about todays perception. When I was at that age it was considered young adult.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I think the influence on Reddit was deeper than a lot of people have considered. The hivemind was so strong it made it difficult to have decent and useful discussion, even the puns that muddied down nearly every post's comments achieved that end. The amount of posts I've seen of people feeling much more comfortable actually interacting on Lemmy, in my mind, lends weight to how Reddit wasn't a place for objective dialogue. That's why it felt so adolescent, like sitting at a high school lunch table.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Enjoy while it lasts, Eventually everything turns to shit

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I suspect that one of the reasons Lemmy's texts are longer, meatier, and more thoughtful is the age of the users. My gut tells me that we're an older audience that doesn't need to dump the usual social media BS - hasty comments filled with unsubstantiated arguments. Everyone has an opinion and should be heard and respected. As a Reddit refugee, I feel Lemmy provides such space, and that's what I enjoy most. Like many others whose profiles match mine, once you get past the initial confusion (where should I register, what app should I use, where can I comment) and get comfortable with the jargon, you feel more encouraged to participate in discussions. So far, I've been pleased with the civil environment of the discussions, as most users are able to express their thoughts in a relaxed and non-toxic manner. Honestly, I'd encourage anyone who has been just lurking to participate and share their thoughts.

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[–] cantstopthesignal 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is like when people in 7th grade say that the 6th graders are sooo immature omg

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is the time before the Eternal September. Enjoy it while you can.

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[–] Christos 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes.. we. Are all. Adults..🤫

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I would imagine a high proportion of people so easy to leave Reddit found it easy because they remember leaving digg.

Anyone younger than that are just bloody sensible

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I disagree. Terrible take. It's never wise to discount, alienate, or exclude our youth. Growth is the name of the game and they're the ones who are going to be ushering in hopefully a better future. Who will they learn from if not us? You want them stewing with each other?

No. We maintain whatever nebulous internet "culture" we like and establish rules. Anyone, young or old, who doesn't adhere can suck eggs. That way young people learn how to act and we can hear them tell us about all the ways we need to better society.

Truly I believe that the children who develop during this time of overstimulation and rapid technological advancement will emerge maybe a bit... maladapted but better than us. Humans can be so resilient especially under supportive circumstances. Our intelligence is adaptive. So if you want to make a great internet community, maintain your respect for our kids.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Forget reddit or Lemmy. Kids love Instagram more than anything else!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

And no repost bots. Reddit top posts are so filled with trash reposts I have seen the 69420 times like I am looking back my primary school homework

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you want, we can all pretend to be kids just like on /r/teenagers.

That place was so creepy.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

As long as there are no well-known apps on any app store, there are going to be less kids, since they probably don't want to go through GitHub. I find most of them are somewhat afraid of downloading apks from websites they might not use often.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I was a kid I thought grown ups were annoying, when I was in my 20s I thought teenagers were annoying, in my 30s I think people in their 20s are annoying. People will always have something to complain about others. “Kids” is just a different group for different people.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

What do you mean? I'm 16/f/cali

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Lots of kids, but the mental age of the user base is all adults (for now)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's not an age thing, It's the same reason the internet generally got toxic after a time people who aren't passionate about things take over and drown out the high effort contributers

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Would you not consider people in their mid twenties kids?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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