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Anti-trans organizations have said that their position against gender affirming care center on "protecting kids." Now, a Florida judge has allowed them to proceed with their next target: trans adults.


Several weeks ago, a federal judge in Florida halted a ban on gender-affirming care for transgender youth, declaring it likely unconstitutional. Yet, transgender adults were also heavily impacted by the law: 80% of gender-affirming care providers for trans adults in the state were forced to stop. Consequently, many found themselves forced to flee the state, temporarily or permanently, in order to access care. Those forced to stay clung to the hope that the provisions targeting them might also be overruled. However, those hopes suffered a setback when the 11th Circuit Court determined that discriminating against transgender individuals in healthcare would be allowed, at least in the short term. Relying on this verdict, the Florida Judge Monday declined to block the sections affecting trans adult care. Now, the precedent has been set for adult care bans, a stark contradiction to some anti-trans activists' assurances that their sole aim was to "protect children."

Earlier this year, Florida passed SB254. The bill did not only prohibit gender-affirming care for transgender youth, but also casted stringent requirements for care on trans adults. Specifically, the laws bars nurse practitioners from administering care and mandates that providers distribute inaccurate medical forms, laden with misleading narratives, suggesting treatments are experimental. This was a substantial change, as the vast amount of trans adult care is provided by nurse practitioners. A representative from a clinic in the state, SPEKTRUM Health, estimated that 80% of such care would be affected. Further, the new informed consent form dictates a pre-requisite of "social support" before a trans individual embarks on care, despite many trans adults losing social support from their families after they transition. Though the initial discussion centered on the effect of the bill on trans youth, trans adults across the state suddenly saw their prescriptions dropped by their providers as a result.


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[–] [email protected] 188 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Literally nobody ever believed it was about "protecting the children." This was never anything more than a cheap shot by those with low and questionable moral value to force everyone else down to their own level in the swamps. Anyone who tells you they are doing this "as a proper Christian" are the same kind of people who are so morally bankrupt that they can't even tell you what it means to love thy neighbor without looking up the words in their favorite piece of fiction.

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 11 months ago

There’s literally no difference between a trans person getting medical care like hormone therapy and any adult getting any other type of treatment. If you take pills for your limp dick, get breast implants, or use hormone therapy for things like controlling heavy menstrual bleeding or even as a form of cancer treatment, your rights are at risk. It’s merely a matter of who is in the White House and who controls the legislative bodies. These dickhead republicans are entirely shortsighted in that respect. Not that it matters, their base will eat it up as a victory. They literally led these idiots off a cliff during Covid and they cheered Trumps name as they took their last fibrosis riddled breath.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wow who could've thought that fascism would simply stop once it got its way?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

>I just discovered your username is also an emoji

tfyourlookinat

[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago

We all knew where this was going, but I honestly didn't think we'd getbl here so quickly.

[–] can 57 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Coming soon: "No Longer About Trans"

They are going to keep pushing.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 11 months ago (1 children)

These people will never stop ripping rights away from others. I’ll never understand people pushing their will on others.

[–] Kecessa 17 points 11 months ago

Impossible, it's the party of rights and freedoms! Pew pew!

[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago

This is a real "which side are you on?" moment. You're either for helping trans people or want us gone.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago (3 children)

People forget only half of the concentration camps victims were Jewish, nazis treated the LGBT (and lots of other) communities the same.

By the end of it, it was anyone who disagreed with anything they said.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago

It was never about kids.

Anyone that knew their history knew that the whole "PROTECT THE CHILDREEENS" rhetoric was nothing more than a ploy to get a foot in the door for all this shit.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Conservatism is hate. Conservatism is bigotry, racism, homophobia, misogyny, transphobia, xenophobia and anti-semitism. It always has been.

Teach your children why it is wrong to do business or keep relationships with conservatives. Marginalize hate by marginalizing the hate group.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Florida becoming the foundation of American fascism over the past 20 years is such a weird development. It used to be the party state. It did and still does have a huge supportive queer community.

I can only point to wealthy retirees shaping Florida's trajectory

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

It's also fitting the vanguard of America's descent into fascism will one of the earlier places (in the US) to be rendered uninhabitable by the climate change.

Fascism is a death cult.

[–] FARTYSHARTBLAST 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Narrator: it never was intended for ‘the children’

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago

This is genocidal.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

kids were just the foot in the door if they cared about kids they would give a shit about school shootings

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago

Mfw they ban testosterone and all the ski doo dealership owners go back to being flabby little dweebs

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe it's overstated, maybe it's been said before, but it stays true:

Death to America amerikkka my heart goes out to all my fellow trans people trapped under American fascism

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Death to Nazis, both new and old.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The next cis person to say vote as if participating in the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie will fix this... I swear to fucking god...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (4 children)

You really think such a ban isn't supported by a large amount of voters? You think it's purely the "bourgeoisie" that's transphobic?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

It's a pretty reliable statistic that whenever anti-trans legislation goes to a public referendum, it fails. When this kind of stuff is a genuine public vote, the public almost always votes in favor of trans rights.

It's also a reliable statistic that the more a politician talks about being anti-trans, the worse they do electorally.

Anti-trans legislation is being pushed through by appointed judges, unelected committees, state cabinets, shit like that. It's not being pushed by a public vote.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

no it's that a system controlled by the wealthy can't and won't fix this. the perpetual culture war prevents working class solidarity and ensures the continuation of exploitation. fascism is just the byproduct of the system working as intended.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I know it isn't supported by a large amount of voters. You can look at polling that shows even conservatives are split on it and a lot find it offputting. It is being pushed by the bourgeoisie because they need a scapegoat for their economic system failing while the work to change to a fascist capitalist mode of production and crush anti-capitalist organizing.

And if it was supported, guess why it would be supported? Because the bourgeois media systemically spread hatred of the group.

Edit: also what you said isn't related to what I wrote. How does however many people supporting transphobia relate to us being in a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie which will not allow us to take effective action against transphobes through its mechanisms?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

No one is saying that its only the bourgeois that are homophobic. But it is the fact that liberal democracy only works for them that makes it so a party can rule as a minority.

Generally these bans are not popular. Not with enough people that they would pass. Everywhere a referrendum has occured the anti-trans side has lost, as with abortion as well. These aren't popular policies.

The anti-democratic way our institutions are set up allows a party to hold a majority of power with a minority of support. That is what the bourgeois want and care about, and what will not change through vote

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I have seen a lot of my social circles going from yeah trans/gay people can be misogynists to only people with vaginas who should be allowed to go to women's bathrooms to the "skittles community" is destroying womanhood and modern feminism is too woke. Its very scary times, I no longer feel safe amidst the people I used to call friends.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

Bigots continue being bigots after they get what they want? Who could have guessed? Death to Florida

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

I'm shocked, shocked I say.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same thing as when they were afraid of gay marriage.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They are still against gay marriage

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

They are still against "race mixing', and that will be on the chopping block next, along with making non-whites losing the vote, women losing the vote, and slavery becoming a thing again, but they won't call it that, it will be "caring for a dependant of the state" only the only way to cease being a dependant of the state is to die or flee the country.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

fuck Florida, the sea can have it

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