I was thinking of visiting Istanbul this year. I guess I will pass and spend my pink money somewhere else. Where it is appreciated.
this post was submitted on 27 Jun 2023
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The weird thing is that homosexuality was decriminalised in Turkey in 1858 (compare that to 1967 in the UK), yet in 2020 they found that 57% of Turks oppose accepting it in society, and the government is and has always been very queerphobic.
Yeah it was way cooler when it was known as constantinople.
I mean Turkey being anti-LGBT isn't exactly a new developement. I'm glad you're not going anymore as that could put you in danger, but they've never been subtle about their stance on that matter. Careful where you travel.
Come to Israel. We respect everybody. Yes, even the people that the news tries to make you think that we hate. The vast majority of us don't.
If you weren't killing kids, displacing families, and generally a colonial ethnostate we would love to visit israel.
Well then you'll be glad to visit, because that narrative is easy to dispel. Especially considering the topic of this post is visiting Turkey of all intolerant places.
It’s not easy or possible to dispel that it’s a literal theocratic ethnostate. It’s something they’re pretty open about. Still think it’s worth a visit. Lots of places with shitty governments are worth visiting.
Israel is far less theocratic than the United Kingdom, where the head of State is also the head of Church. And she's actually a descendant of Muhammad too! I could mention quite a few other "esteemed" theocracies, from Iran to (arguably) the United States (Christmas is a government holiday). Any definition of "Theocracy" that includes Israel, will include the majority of the Western world.
As for being an ethnostate, Israel is far less of an ethnostate than any other middle eastern country with possibly the exception of Lebanon depending on how you'd like to frame Lebanese law requiring certain government positions to be held by people of certain ethnicities. And any definition of "ethnostate" that includes Israel will include Belgium, Latvia, Estonia, and Ireland as well, at a minimum.
Maybe this gay man and women are more manly than this men in the office. For having balls of steel doing pride match in a country who prosecute them.
After seeing the women in Iran side by side protesting and fighting with the men who support them, I wish we could instead try to change this entirely, associating manly with strong and womanly as weak seems so outdated in a world where strength isn‘t only from muscles.
And what exactly are these "family values" and how does the LGBT community weakens them?
@AradFort oh wow, I have been to Istanbul pride before, its pretty hard core, we got sprayed with water cannons the whole time.
Unfortunate to see so many.
Can you clarify your comment? Unfortunate to see so many arrests, or unfortunate to see so many gay people?
Time to bring out the bricks.