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[–] [email protected] 175 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm surprised the judge didn't yank him back on that statement as proof that he lied to the court and give him a longer term

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He'd need to be tried again for purgory which he very well might be

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't think he was under oath at the time he made that statement, so perjury is not a concern.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s not how it works. His statement out of court can be used as evidence that his statements in court were false (perjury).

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So he didn't commit pierogi

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[–] [email protected] 149 points 1 year ago (39 children)

They need the max sentence, every time. None of them are sorry; they're just telling the judge what they think he wants to hear. They might as well not be sorry making license plates for a decade.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago

they're sorry they failed. Sorry they got caught, and sorry they're being held accountable.

what they're not sorry about is trying to fucking overthrow the lawful government of this country. So yeah.

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[–] krayj 123 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hopefully the prosecution saves this video and presents it at this douchebag's first, second, nth, parole hearing.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

Federal, so he has to serve 1/3 of his sentence to get to his first parole consideration. So, a little over three years.

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I feel like immediately showing that you lied to the judge should allow for revising your sentence.

ETA: It amuses me to think about this chud feeling like a badass with his act of defiance in the court room. Later, he has the "oh shit," realization when he arrives at his cell.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope this stunt is used to deny him parole every time he asks.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude is resting easy thinking that he'll be pardoned on Jan 21, 2025. That's the only reality that has any hope for him.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Lol you think Trump is going to remember these people?

[–] yata 12 points 1 year ago

Definitely not. He only remembers people who have some sort of leverage on him, like Roger Stone and Michael Flynn.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course he’s a changed man. Before he was free, now he’s going to prison. I hope all these Proud Boys are similarly changed!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

It's a whole lifestyle makeover! 😆

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago

TRUMP WON

He sure did, seeing as you and yours get your sorry asses carted off to prison while he gets to play dumb in court.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could you fucking imagine going to prison for a decade because of that orange sack of shit? Treating politics as a religion is a complete mystery to me. Kinda like religion itself, but that's another rathole.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No I can't but they can.. they have been trained to fall down for him the way they would for ' jesus'.. it's actually very scary.. I grew up Christian.. one thing they taught us, was to be prepared to be imprisoned or killed of Jesus, for our faith... But to wear it like a badge for the reward in heaven... They took the teaching and applied it to trump, their antichrist and that why you see people so desperately clinging to him.. they literally do think he is a Jesus of sorts, and they are more than willing to die for him and got to prison... If given the chance they will burn the whole.world down for dominance and obedience... very scary things..

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trump cultists are dead-enders. No way out.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (9 children)

So this smoothbrain has his ‘I am Spartacus’ moment, his 2.5 minutes of fame. As the endorphins wear off and he comes to terms to the fact that he ain’t seeing outside past the ‘yard’ for the next decade. Assuming the genpop doesn’t try to do him for shit and giggles

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's going to be with his people. Racist make up a lot of the prison population.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He’s celebrating. He knew he was going to prison, he just didn’t know for how long. The DOJ recommended 20 years and he only got 10, which means he’ll be out in 7.5 (with good behavior and time served).

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm sure that won't come up at parole hearings. No sirree

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Reminds me of when the Vice Pres. of the confederacy started lying about how the war wasn't about slavery after he got locked up lol

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They should find a way to double his sentence.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

I'm sure the parole board will take note.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They very well might do that. It's happened before with another Jan 6'er even. The judge basically schedules another hearing where they go over his claims of innocence based on his subsequent actions and re-sentences him.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Next year is gonna get real ugly, and I think it will all depend on who wins the Republican nomination.

If Trump gets it, which is very likely, unless the Republican Party puts a moratorium on allowing convicted felons to represent their party in the presidential race, then Biden has a chance of winning re-election, since you'd hope that a good portion of the public would want to keep an insurrectionist out.

DeSantis or Ramaswamy getting the nomination and effectively distancing themselves from Trump would mean Biden is in big trouble, unless Trump makes the bold move of running as an independent candidate and driving his most loyal supporters away from the Republican vote. And I think given how the Republican Party nearly got away with overthrowing the state and placing themselves in charge, America could be very close to a civil war or falling into a totalitarian dictatorship.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

First of all I think your assessment of desantis or ramaswamy is way off if they get the nod trump will absolutely run as a third party candidate BECAUSE HE HAS TO TO STAY OUT OF PRISON. There is no other option. Either trump wins the GOP nom or he splits the ticket and very likely the party.

They say Republicans fall in line but trump may just be the exception to that rule. His base is so devoted they hate anyone who even tries to be liked him as long as he's out there.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Ramaswamy has a 0% chance of getting the nomination. He's an Indian Hindu, he will never be the face of the GOP. I think he's shooting to be Trump's VP, that's where he's most dangerous. He's very smart, smart enough to play suck-up to Trump, but pull Trump's strings behind the scenes.

DeSantis is a really long shot. He has a surge in popularity when it looked like he could deliver wins, but his war on Disney is failing badly and he has no charisma on stage, unlike Ramaswamy or Trump.

Most likely outcome of the GOP primary is a Trump/Ramaswamy ticket. Trump is really just a figurehead for the trump cult to rally around, publicly using Ramaswamy to refute claims of racism or white nationalism, they'll double down hard on claims that Democrats cheated on 2020, and Ramaswamy will wield much of the actual power behind the curtain.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I'm being generous, maybe that was his last ditch attempt to get Trump to give him a pardon. Of course that's not going to play well with the parole board down the line, so probably not a smart play. Or he's just a fucking moron. Yeah, probably that.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

just goes to show that you can never trust a trump supporter about anything ever again

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump definitely did not win. He's not sending his best.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

No no, this is his best.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't help but think about this from time to time: it is a series of curses on humanity that instead of being some miserable failure as a businessman who would only end up conning a few dozen people before committing suicide due to awareness of the scum that they are, he somehow instead became a celebrity and then a cult leader turned fucking president.

The absolute shittiest timeline.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Think of Trump every time you need to go to your happy place to block out the horrors of prison.

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