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Almost half of Canadians living paycheque to paycheque as Tory support grows: poll (www.winnipegfreepress.com)

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (16 children)

Let's elect the Conservatives so they can cut taxes on the rich, cut services for the poor, neglect our government systems and infrastructure, drive up the deficit and the debt, then blame the Liberals for trying to fix their mess.

Rinse.

Repeat.

Why are people so fucking dumb? The Conservatives do the same thing every time. Then they lie about what the Liberals are doing and people swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Taxes are too high, government spending is out of hand, too many immigrants, and it's all the Liberals' fault.

That's it, I'm sawing off my legs! That'll show those Marxist bastards!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

People are upset with Trudeau so they will try another option.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

...without actually thinking about the consequences of that other option. Basically how every Conservative government has gotten elected in the last few decades.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes exactly. People are stupid. They only see red team and blue team. Blue team says low taxes. They will pick blue team if they are running out of money because they don't know what taxes are for or how economies work.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pls pick orange team guys. :c

[–] Ironfist 7 points 11 months ago

If rural Canada would stop picking the blue one so we could choose between red and orange that would be great.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

I don't like Trudeau either, but PP is way worse.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

That's part of the stupidity OP is talking about.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

They will try the other option that worked so well the last time and the time before that and the time before that and the time...

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Cool, so people are interested in making it worse? Lol.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (2 children)

As long as they can blame liberals, they'd be ok with making things worse.

The fact is, all the hardship that most people are going through is likely down to their provincial leadership. Surprise, surprise, the majority are conservative.

I believe only Newfoundland and Labrador has a liberal premier, and their cost of living is below average.

But yeah, let's have more pain and suffering.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The problem isn't even with Canada, it is a global phenomena. If you check news sites in other western democracies, they all have very similar struggles. The problem is wealth distribution is concentrated in too few people, and their wealth is such that like a black hole, it greedily consumes everything. The only solution is a readjustment of the global wealth pie, and break up many of these overly large monopolistic corporations. A vote for the cons is a doubling down of what we are already getting.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

BC has an NDP premier.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

All the Conservatives have to do is wait long enough and they'll win an election. They literally don't need to do anything. Eventually enough Canadians will blame the current Prime Minister for their city buses running late and vote in a Conservative.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

While our politics is not technically two party, in terms of parties which have held power it is, and people seem stuck in that mindset. They know they are unhappy with the status quo, they know they want change, and the only change a lot of people are willing to consider is the one with the history of austerity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So here's the issue. I align more with NDP but I don't want conservatives to win. I don't want to split the vote between NDP and liberals so I end up voting for the more popular candidate which ends up being the Liberals.

This is the issue with the current voting system. If only there was a different voting system proposed. Maybe one party could even back it. Maybe we can vote that party in power and then can actually change our voting system /s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

This type strategic voting against Liberals and Conservative is how Canada has just alternated between two bad parties for the last few decades.

Progress takes time and it doesn't mean every single moment things have to go in the right direction. Canada can survive the Liberals and Conservatives for a couple more terms it means some type of political progress.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It worked in Ontario!

Wait...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I hate Rob Ford so fking much.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago

STOP. SUPPORTING. TORIES. GODDAMN IT.

Honestly, what's the first thing out of a British person's lips? "I hate Tories, they're ruining this country." Yet they keep getting elected anyway. Can... can you see the problem with this? They pretend to be populist, but invariably steal from the poor and give to the rich. Stop falling for the bullshit and for your own prejudices and vote for people who will actually help the common man. Don't make the same mistakes we Americans keep making!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago

It's been almost 100 fucking years and yet this is still relevant.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Haven't half of all Canadians always lived paycheque to paycheque? We can find the same headline going back decades. I thought the news was supposed to deliver that which is... new?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Do you have any links to perhaps back up that assertion? I have my doubts that it's always been as high as 50%.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's especially rent, there was an article in Québec about someone who saw her rent increase from 1750$ to 2900$, condo was not re-sold or anything, it's just the owner who want to eat poors.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If we want rent control, tories aren't the answer.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

They're never the answer.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I thought Quebec had strict rent control? That shouldn't have been possible. It's the kind of thing I would expect to hear out of BC or Ontario.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

BC has rent control set by the province. They set raises below inflation for a few years now too.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand how people can complain of "no options" or act like there are no other parties, just Coke or Pepsi. There are other parties, and even independents. Voting isn't supposed to be a popularity contest for the most slick and charismatic candidate, nor is it a game where you try to match who you think everybody else is voting for.

It just feels to me like everyone is doing what they think they're supposed to do (as if our votes are public?), instead of trusting themselves to really look at what they believe should happen and find a party that is willing (or at least more likely) to fight to have it done. 😟

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

In Alberta there's a disgustingly large amount of people who simply vote blue because that's what their dad did, and what his dad did. If you ask them WHY they hate Trudeau, you can't get a coherent answer because they don't actually know.

My dad made a comment one day about how the "ruined" economy was all Trudeau's fault. I asked what he'd done and he couldn't think of anything to say.

Hard agree.. They just spew rhetoric because they think it's what they're supposed to say.. it's like a cult.

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