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I unironically do not believe bad music exists. There are genres we subjectively find annoying or distasteful but there is absolutely no such thing as objectively bad music/low quality music.
I mean, music that is soulless and obviously low-effort in its production exists, but that doesn’t necessarily translate to it being bad.
The music people hate the most is what played when they worked retail.
Oh this post is giving me flashbacks. To restaurants instead of retail but 
The only music I can't stomach is the white nationalist sort of country music, the stuff all about beer, god, driving a truck. Bleh. It's so cloying and clearly made by middle class suburban ghouls pretending to be rural country people. I include that Oliver Anthony idiot here, and Jason Aldean. The worst culprit is Luke Bryan. Just propagandists working for coordinated fascists, all of them.
I gotta ask what you think of musicians who make music that's intentionally supposed to be bad. Like Lou Reed possibly made Metal Machine Music as an insult to his record company. Bob Dylan made the album "Self Portrait" bad on purpose as well. My personal favorite is Hanatarash, who made music so inaccessible their performances were actually dangerous. They'd include construction equipment like jackhammers in their music, and one time they had to be stopped from throwing a lit molotov cocktail on stage. They eventually got banned from every venue in Japan for insurance reasons.
Then there's Hello Kitty Suicide Club which is on a different level
Sometimes, music that’s made to be “intentionally bad” ends up having people who like it anyways. Like the one dude on TikTok who tried to make an “objectively bad song” but accidentally made kickass breakcore
I’d bet that people who intentionally make bad music end up making music that sucks according to the people that like the genre they’re making, not music that’s universally bad
Everyone's corny wedding pictures for over a decade now.
Itt: people realizing that they are entering the "this generation of music sucks" phase of their lives
2011-2015 Was pretty awful when it came to music ngl.
Nowadays there's some decent stuff coming out, but maybe the difference lies in me being a kid who was forced to listen to top 40 Radio when riding the car with my parents vs being an album listener nowadays.
But I suppose the "hey let's party and have fun!" era was particularly grating to my ears, considering I lived in Italy during the crisis era German plunder of southern Europe.
The thing about the "this generation of music sucks" phase is that we're the first generation to enter it since ClearChannel media monopolized the airwaves and pushed out any music that isn't guaranteed to be profitable.
"this generation of music sucks"
I hated hair metal in the 80s when I was supposed to be really into it 
bro i never left, i still listen to Lo Boob Oscillator and pester people with comments about how brilliant its krautrock-influenced motorik interlude is, i never even watched high fidelity
I liked bon iver.
I just hated the fans
bon iver is sick and i don't think there's really much of an overlap between his music and what is being attacked here (other than drawing on some generic folk tropes or whatever).
You're right, Bon Iver is bad in different ways.
It was a pseudo-revival of mid-century folk music. It didn’t last because much of it didn’t have genuine proletarian roots like real folk music. It mimicked the aesthetic and sounds of folk music but none of the content. It never will when it’s just wealthy urbanites cosplaying as poor country bumpkins.
Folk music and related genres (like soul and country and blues) have all suffered for the same reason. Their class character is fake and purely aesthetic today. At least, for the super mainstream bands that make it on the Starbucks Spotify playlist.
There was a megathread a while back about Woody Guthrie. His music lasted because it captured a genuine aspect of working class America in a way that stomp clap hey never can. This Land Is Your Land was a political song. We don’t do that enough anymore, in the name of mass appeal and profit and merchandising. Even Bill Withers, who was merely center-left as far as I know, made music that mattered with lyrics opposing racism and war.
It mimicked the aesthetic and sounds of folk music but none of the content.
The whole hipster subculture was a grotesque imitation of working class americana, is it a coincidence that it emerged shortly after the subprime mortgage crisis? no it isn't, shopping from goodwill became popular out of necessity and then the aesthetics of thrifting emerged as a response because rich people felt alienated from the moment (the moment being the 2008 financial crisis). the saddest thing are fascists today trying to co-opt hipster aesthetics, a coarse imitation of an imitation that only vaguely retains its working class signifiers. a trend so passé that even having hipsters as the butt of the joke feels completely out-of-touch.
Good post
based and material analysis pilled
Death to America
why were people listening to bands that had law firm names
Or old carpentry shops/butchers/grocers lol
Mumford and Sons WILL be a shop somewhere I just don't know where.
styles are always overrated in their prime, despised immediately after their prime, and then longed for wistfully 2+ decades later. pattern-noticer gang is weary and opening their bibles to ecclesiastes.
[loud sigh ] I was into Ecclesiastes before it was cool.
vanity of vanities...
I think this genre bugged me more than any other bad genre because I really liked the previous era of indie rock - early Arcade Fire, Broken Social Scene, Wolf Parade, Neutral Milk Hotel, Animal Collective, The Unicorns, Stars, Final Fantasy/Owen Pallett, The Microphones, ahhh, I'm getting powerful nostalgia just listing them out. Not that all these bands sounded similar to each other, but there was this weirdo/folko/p4k-zone that they all occupied that I found really moving and relatable, I think cause most of the people making it were depressed and anxious or otherwise mentally ill like me.
When all this stomp/clap "indie" bullshit started it felt like they took music I love, stripped everything interesting from it, and gave it to the rich kids with no problems that were often CAUSING me mental illness. It felt like some cruel ironic punishment from Greek mythos.
I feel the exact same. I loved most of those names you listed, and my poor Sufjan banjo brain was not ready for the onslaught of assembly line indie that came barreling in after them.
Some of those original indie darlings are goddamn weird people, and they brought all their quirks into their music. There's a very messy personal artistry you get with bands like The Microphones or Neutral Milk Hotel that is completely polished away in the generation of indie bands that exploded in the early 10’s.
I'm glad some of the earlier scene is alive still though. I saw Owen live this year and I can tell you he is still fucking killing it.
Grouplove is another shitty rich kid band from this era that im glad is no longer relevant
Literally their genesis was WE MET ON A GREEK ISLAND AND DECIDED TO FORM A ROCK BAND AND IT SOMEHOW WORKED OUT
I've been looking up the various bands people are hating on in this thread and so when I looked up yours I checked out this song called Ways to Go and it seems to be like weirdly Kim Jong Un coded. Like if Kim Jong Un were a child who one day woke up and was really chill and wore Hawaiian shirts. It's very weird. I just had to remark because of that video being so bizarrely themed. Their songs were unremarkable.
there is a fucking thing called "the dead south" and they are like my curse . Youtube does not stop recomending me theeir fucking Song to me ...
they walk a Railwaytrack and are all dressed in this 20's folksy clap step way .. and its probably hunting me since this shit was In ,..they mus be the Most Nepo of Nepo .... real bad vibes musi
Keep it dead
i like that one mumford and sons song that is about dementia or something. but thats because i was a child when it came out and this entire era of music holds some nostalgia for me.
i just had a look through my nostalgia playlist and not a lot of these songs are actually good. bastille might suck ass but they were my favourite band when i only knew five bands
All these guys work at gourmet $20 burger joints now
But they're not restaurants! They're a gastropub, or even an eatery.
One of my friends still really likes this music
Mumford and sons, lumineers, x ambassadors, that type of garbage
So I guess there’s a market for it somewhere
does clap your hands say yeah fit under this category?
I only know the name of that band because I have Satan said dance likes on Spotify. So I do not know
I like some of it in a "nostalgic shit music i used to like when i didn't have much of an identity", so yeah.
