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Useless. Time for the Social Democrats to form their own party.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Representative Mike Lawler, a New York Republican, wrote on X: "This is absurd on its face. The United States has not declared war since 1942 and has conducted over 125 different military actions since that time, including in Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Presidents of both parties have relied on Article II authority, as well as AUMFs [Authorizations for Use of Military Force], to conduct targeted strikes and have not been subject to impeachment. In 2011, Barack Obama conducted an 8 month campaign in Libya to topple Gaddafi."

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago

They always bring up Obama and Libya. Which was a joint NATO led coalition after a UN passed resolution. Not that it helped, but it is not close to Trump's bombing of Iran. Not even close.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Called it. People need to set their expectations way lower so they aren't so pissed off about the lack of action from this party. They should also read up on the legal precedents that were going to sink these articles to begin with. Democrats would have a much better chance to impeach some of the Donvict's shitty cabinet members, (Pete Hegseth, ICE Barbie, RFK, DOGE) for clearly impeachable offenses, but decided to swan dive into an empty concrete pool. So there is still no sound strategy from the democrats on how to dismantle this nightmare and only pissing the public off with limp wristed slaps.

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[–] explodicle 26 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Nobody who said "blue no matter who" in 2024 is allowed to say "what the actual fuck" at this.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago (3 children)

This goes to show that the problem isn't Trump or the Republicans, the problem is the United States of America. The only way things are going to get better is if America is removed from its position of global power and influence. If you care about fighting fascism and tyranny, you need to boycott American products, refuse to work for American companies and, if you're already working for an American company and can't quit, drop your productivity as far as possible. Do everything in your power to damage the American economy and reduce their power.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

I knew both sides were bad, but I didn't realize the rot was infested this badly.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago

Traitors, every last one

[–] Tuxman 19 points 3 days ago

The day Americans realized no one was coming to save them 🫂

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Just remember many liberals try to tell the democratic party is different than the republican party. Just remember both are bought by PACS and oligarchs

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

He's already been impeached twice in his previous presidency, he shouldn't even be sitting where he's at

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

This is what you get when you vOtE bLuE nO mAtTeR wHo

[–] Gates9 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Rep Paul Tonko is one of the NY reps that voted no to impeach. I work 2 blocks from his office and plan to spend my lunch hour every day demonstrating in front of his Albany office. I already called his office to bitch. I've got printed letters that say, "Congratulations, you're a fascist collaborator." Going to be stuffing those in envelopes with glitter and putting one in the mail every single day. Give me your best for my protest signs.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I wonder what the reasoning is. Do they really hate the idea of Iran having nukes? Do they really like keeping Israel as an ally? I don't know, as a regular voter, what Israel does for us. They seem very unpopular

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

But still, even when you go to more politically aware places (like lemmy), you'll get mocked for suggesting America is rules by a uniparty when it comes to American inperialism. It's unbelievably fucking stupid.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

He's still useful to Israel. Bibi has some Raytheon catalog pages he circled items on.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago

You people starting to realize that these 'Democrats' are just in there for the money like Republicans are, you need to clean the party

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