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I had the thrill of a lifetime, hosting dinner for Bill Gates, Linus Torvalds and David Cutler. Linus had never met Bill, and Dave had never met Linus. No major kernel decisions were made, but maybe next dinner πŸ˜‰

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Holy shit bill gates be looking rough

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I doubt he can still hurdle chairs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sauce? Never heard of this

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

I assume you are being facetious, but for anyone who is part of today's 10,000

Source

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago

Hide your MBR Linus!

[–] [email protected] 151 points 21 hours ago (7 children)

One of the replies to the LinkedIn post:

Dave Cutler (Windows NT) and Linus Torvalds (Linux kernel creator) wouldn’t meet casually; they’re almost certainly plotting a next-gen AI-native operating system (AI OS). With Azure CTO Mark Russinovich in the mix, the effort looks Microsoft-centered and cloud-first.

Key ideas: β€œProcesses” become agents; Command line / GUI replaced by a natural-language interface; Hybrid Windows + Linux kernel layers, orchestrated on Azure for large-scale LLM and agent workloads

Bottom line: expect a Microsoft-led, AI-centric OS that re-imagines traditional operating-system architecture for the LLM era.

Talk about talking out of your ass.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)

That LinkedIn comment you quoted feels really ChatGPT to me. Mostly because it smashes reasonable ideas together into some BS and then summarizes it's own response several times.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 26 minutes ago

It was posted by the CEO of some random AI company so the distinction is probably nil

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

They can call it GlossolaliaOS or something.

[–] zqps 14 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Just in case that putting processes in quotation marks as though they're some alien concept (unlike AI agents I guess) wasn't enough to convince you how deeply unserious this person is, they threw "azure-orchestrated kernel layers" in there.

I would pay actual money to hear Linus Torvalds react to that elevator pitch.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, it's obvious sarcasm. But reading comprehension has seriously gone to shit in the last decade or so.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You've not been briefed on the current state of the world if this is obvious sarcasm to you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 47 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Talking out of your AIss*
Or just great satire, what's even the difference between that and reality these days?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I find comfort in satire because it's way less absurd.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 20 hours ago

Thoughts and sprayers to satire!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

Add long as it has nothing to do with Linux, I don't care

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

Yes, this is bullshit.

While some sort of a redesign of part of Linux's internals I could imagine.

In terms of kernel ABI stability Linux is often criticized even in comparison to BSDs.

And in general its insides are more messy and "naturally grown", or so I've heard (OpenBSD is the only OS whose internals I've made myself familiar with sufficiently ; also put some effort for FreeBSD).

So my, eh, alternative opinion would be that something is brewing for Linux like what Digital Unix was for BSD Unix. A hybrid cleaned up kernel, maybe support for different ABIs (like what exists in FreeBSD for Linux and older versions of itself, except maybe more ambitious). Maybe even tackling a more open alternative to NT (itself alternative to VMS and David Cutler being the man who did that) while they're at it. NT is not a bad thing. Even Windows is not a bad thing. Maybe Wine isn't enough, or maybe it would be cool to have something possible to make compatible with many Windows device drivers.

At least I hope it's Linux learning to do EEE and not the other way around.

Though with Bill Gates and Dave Cutler this really seems like a meeting of legends and nothing more. They're cool people, but I don't think they want to play global thermonuclear computing war at that age, unlike just global thermonuclear war IRL, this one is more attractive for younger people. Even if it's about some project being born, I'd expect that to be "just for fun" for everyone involved, they deserve that after all.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago

I didn't even recognize them until I read the title.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This happened on 21 June 2025

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago

...that's two days ago?

[–] [email protected] 55 points 21 hours ago

Someone's 3d printer making spaghetti in the background.

[–] baggachipz 24 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

Tiny head though

[–] [email protected] 45 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

That backdrop makes everyone look even grayer than they are

[–] [email protected] 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Except for the guy on the left, who is clearly wearing a wig.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Not just a wig, a cheapo Aliexpress wig. I had an employee who bought a quality hairpiece, and it was uncanny. He paid through the nose for it, but it was worth it for him, as he was quite bald in his 20's.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 21 hours ago

The awful lighting on this photo makes Linus look older than Bill!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Haha I read that as gayer.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That is wild they've never met.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I imagine Linus never seeing a point to such a meeting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago

I'd have expected then meeting by chance at a conference at some point

[–] [email protected] 13 points 20 hours ago

Same. At this point I think he probably did it more to indulge those who wanted that to happen than actually wanting or caring about it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I like to imagine they were just side-eyeing each other the whole time.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago

And every movement arises suspicion. One of them jumped when the other reached for his phone in his pocket

[–] aBundleOfFerrets 11 points 21 hours ago

Holy shit the comments on that have got to be the sloppiest slop I have ever seen.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Linus looking healthier than ever, dog. Good for him. Live your best life, baby.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Lean, mean, diving machine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Oh yeah, that's one of his interests, isn't it? He wrote some kind of software for that, if I remember correctly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

Dave Cutler, the legend of VMS and the NT kernel.