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[-] [email protected] 129 points 10 months ago

So .. if he could receive a call ... couldn't he make a call to someone he knows?

[-] [email protected] 200 points 10 months ago

I remember reading about this. He was actually lost, in that he strayed from his trail and didn't immediately know how to return.

Rescuers were alerted because a family member had reported him missing after he didn't arrive home on time.

As the story goes, to the best of my recollection, the "lost" individual went for a hike and said they would be back before sundown. When they got lost, they obviously missed that deadline. They were biding their time in the forest until daybreak to try to find the trail to get back because it was too dark to look for it. So while he was "lost" it was mainly because the sun had gone down. He didn't feel like he was in any danger, and wasn't at any risk of immediately being harmed or killed; AFAIK they were reasonably familiar with that forest and they were more than capable of surviving in those conditions; so he had no motivation to seek help.

TL;DR: guy didn't feel like he needed help.

[-] [email protected] 107 points 10 months ago

I get that he didn't feel like he needed help. But he told his family he'd be back before sundown so wouldn't the thought to call or even text your family to let them know you're ok cross your mind? That's the part that seems strange to me.

[-] [email protected] 63 points 10 months ago

whats strange to me is that the family didnt try to reach him first

[-] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

Or why didn’t the rescuers text or leave a message?

Sounds like everyone has trouble communicating properly here. It’s like how to write a sitcom plot 101.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago

Maybe they forgot ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Been there for sure

Just forgetting to tell family I was going to be later than I expected

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Yeah that part is a bit inconsiderate.

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[-] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago

He was probably afraid to call for help due to the insane prices the search and rescue folks charge. Might have wanted to wait another day or two to be sure he was really lost before calling for help.

[-] SuddenDownpour 43 points 10 months ago

due to the insane prices the search and rescue folks charge

Is this a joke or is this actually a thing in the US?

[-] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago

Hahahaha no really the US is just a nightmare in ways you havent even thought of, yet.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

It’s a U.S. thing! Yay! You can buy insurance for it if you do a lot of backpacking but that’s rare. I believe it’s in the five figures for a rescue. But apparently occasionally it can be free if you’re lucky enough to get rescued by the one agency whose name I forget.

[-] Klear 17 points 10 months ago

But apparently occasionally it can be free if you’re lucky enough to get rescued by the one agency whose name I forget.

MIB?

[-] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Unfortunately they only come if you need to be rescued from aliens.

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

USA: die or get crippled by debt for getting saved

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[-] [email protected] 95 points 10 months ago

If it's important, they'll leave a message. Otherwise it's just another scam anyway

[-] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

“Hey, sorry to bother you, was just wondering if you were dead. Please call back at your earliest convenience.”

[-] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Yeah right, as if I'm dumb enough to fall for that one!

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[-] [email protected] 86 points 10 months ago

As someone who does not answer unknown numbers I am laughing and also cringing

[-] [email protected] 75 points 10 months ago

If I pick up, then they know its a real number and I get added to a hundred more lists. Its taken me years of diligently ignoring the world to get to the point where i only get a couple of spam calls a day. I might not answer, either.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

I have 2 numbers, my direct cell that only family and close friends know, and my business line that I give out like candy. Business line is simply a virtual line that goes to an auto attendant that I this is si and so from whatever company, dial 1 to ring my cell or dial 2 to leave a voicemail. If you don’t hit a number it hangs up after 30 seconds. No more spam. Of course, some REALLY dumb clients think I’m sending them straight to voicemail because they don’t listen, but that’s it’s own kind of filter that I also appreciate

[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

What service is that?

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[-] [email protected] 62 points 10 months ago

It has nothing to do with social fear, every fucking call on my personal and work phone is a scam.

Get that shit under control and then maybe I'll answer my cell phone once in awhile lol

Though if I was really lost I think I'd be answering every call tbh.

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[-] captain_aggravated 53 points 10 months ago

The telephone network is practically useless because we don't have any authentication to it anymore.

When the phone company had to do something to physically connect a wire to a building, it was sufficient. But that I can download any number of apps that lets me war dial an entire continent pretending to be just anyone? Yeah the phone network isn't secure enough for the average user.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It never really was secure. You could always set the Caller ID on an outgoing PRI trunk to whatever you wanted with any of the phone systems in the last half century. It isn't validated.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Also phone phreaking existed. Just blow a whistle into the pay phone and get free calls.

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[-] Ajen 49 points 10 months ago

I remember this article... He went for a hike and didn't tell his roommates when he would be back. He didn't answer their calls (I'm assuming he needed some time alone), and was gone for more than 24 hours so they reported him missing. He just wanted some time away from his roommates and they put him the the national news.

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[-] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago

I wish people texted after failing to call me. I don't answer calls from unknown numbers either but if you know me then text me so I know it's not a spam number

[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I agree, but I still have this idea that it's rude to text people unless you have gotten permission first. I think it's a relic from the 2000s-2010s when not everyone's phone had texting and if you did text them they could get charged by their phone provider. Obviously nowadays that's much less of a concern, but still feels like a social grey area for some reason

[-] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

It is completely opposite to that in my circles. It would be weird to call people without texting them first. In fact, one of my best friends texted me to ask if he could call me.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Yeah, that's an archaic mindset. Most people would rather get a text these days.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago

Has signal.

Doesn't open map app.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

In what imaginary world you're living that you have data in the middle of nowhere?

[-] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You should have GPS without any service at all. You might need data for the map to load, depends on the app. If you’re lucky and the app automatically cached it when you had signal, or you manually downloaded the offline map, then you could navigate home in airplane mode.

All of this is moot because I think I remember reading the rest of this story. The hiker wasn’t really lost, they simply went on a hike without telling anyone, and ignored calls during that time because they were trying to unplug.

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

For real.

‘Unknown’ or ‘Suspected Spam’ yeah, I guess I’ll just die.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

if you want me to actually respond to you, leave a message. doesn't everybody know this at this point?

Death to America

[-] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Should have sent an email, come on now...

[-] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

"Help I'm dying please send rescue".

Well that's an odd email from January.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago
[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Lol "no. That's too formal"

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[-] PaupersSerenade 16 points 10 months ago

Something similar, if less life threatening, happened to me. My car had been stollen a while back and I avoided the random call from an area code 50+ miles away. Turns out it had been the cops from that area telling my they found my (stripped) vehicle. Impound lot ended up getting the car AND overnight parking fees. Absolute racket.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Did they not leave a fucking voicemail?

[-] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago

That's even worse than a call

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Why would he answer? They were probably trying to reach him about his car's extended warranty.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago
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[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Totally relatable

[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

This could be me lol

It is funny to be lost where you have cell service though.

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