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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Because no one is illegal on stolen land.

I get the message, but it really makes it sound like you’re allowed to steal land and get away with it. Which I guess you can get away with it if you’re white taking the land from someone darker than you.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Which I guess you can get away with it if you’re white taking the land from someone darker than you

Nah. It’s whoever has the biggest weapons gets away with it. If you’ve got a larger country with a bigger stick standing behind you, you can attack anyone you want and no one says shit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It also just sounds like stupid lib shit. No one is illegal–period. Nothing more needs to be said. If the land wasn't stolen, would it be okay to start labeling people illegal?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

No one is illegal–period.

Which is, of course, a refutation of a ridiculous straw man, because no one is actually labeling the people themselves illegal, when referring to them having immigrated illegally. It's a deliberate cringy misinterpretation of simple shorthand.

If you call someone a thief, are you saying that they are theft, or are you saying that they stole?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

@damnedfurry @gaja calling someone an illegal immigrant is specifically meant to dehumanize them. Right wingers don't do that with other offenses. We don't have illegal gun owners, illegal tax payers, illegal drivers, illegal hunters, heck they don't even call abortionists illegal doctors.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right wing rethoric absolutely labels the persons themselves as the problem and not what they have done. Its is about "illegals" and not about "people who immigrated illegally"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Its is about “illegals” and not about “people who immigrated illegally”

???

"An illegal" is literally slang for "a person who immigrated illegally". They are expressing the same exact thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, the same exact thing ... as the other person is saying is bad and wrong. They're calling people illegal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

No, they aren't, it's just shorthand.

That's like saying that calling someone a "thief" is equivalent to asserting that that person is stolen. Actually pay attention to the absurd logic twisting you are employing here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Yes, conservatives DO use bad logic when they call people "illegals", I'm glad we agree on that, even if you do not understand it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Mike Huackabee recently said, that Palestinians should just have some land somewhere in another "muslim country" implying they all would be the same anyways and have so much landmass and Israel has so little.

Well, by that logic the US Americans should get the fuck out of America, since they have so much space in Europe and give the land back to its legitimate people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Malbec's the best, dude.

I wasn't much of a wine drinker when I was younger. Then, I switched to whites—they're usually sweeter, which is an easy transition into the wine world.

Malbec's the real deal red wine. It's super dry, no sugary sweetness, and goes with everything. If you're gonna drink wine, go for Malbec; you won't regret it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I'm Canadian and I had a Malbec phase in the past. :')

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Hey! A lot of land wasn't stolen! .. first hand. Most of the country's land area was purchased from other countries ... that stole it first.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

They deported native americans, maga is mad!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Ice wine slaps tho

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If you haven’t tried ice wine then you’re missing out!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Me ordering cold, solidified water at the restaurant:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Hey, those wines have names!