How...How have I gone so long without hearing about any of this at all? Like I always hear we are evil, but the specifics are chalked up to 'cold war hysteria/propaganda'
Consider me spooked, and many thanks for the awareness boost OP!
How...How have I gone so long without hearing about any of this at all? Like I always hear we are evil, but the specifics are chalked up to 'cold war hysteria/propaganda'
Consider me spooked, and many thanks for the awareness boost OP!
US history programs are 95% propaganda so it’s not surprising.
Same with US state, NGO, and corporate media.
Unitedestadian has long been the term used to describe USA citizens by the Spanish-speaking population of the Americas. Not their fault the country picked a length intro title and a vague region as their country name. Imagine if the UK was the UKE, United Kingdom of Europe, and called themselves Europeans by default. The other 90% would be pissed and make their own names, no?
Instead of 'american' or USian or others, why not Yankee? It has historical significance to the united states, originated a a pejorative, and the south hates it. Perfect
Just lower case "yank" will suffice. That one's already in use.
First time seeing "United Statesian" idek what to say besides I hope to never encounter it again
Well, you guys should have come up with a better demonym that didn't belong to the entire continent(s)
I prefer usonian, but ppl seem to hate that even worse. Much shorter than saying "US citizen", and also not going along with the US cooption of the term america.
I find Burgerlander just rolls off your tongue easier
I’ll also accept Burgerstani & Statesian.
usaan myself
I, too, wish to never encounter an unitedstatian
USian here, and totally agree. The willful ignorance is stunning to behold.
But help me with my potential ignorance here - is this meme also suggesting that ordinary citizens of other developed countries know about these things? Do high school history and social studies classes have a day or a week that discuss US imperialism & shady dealings of recent decades?
My impression has always been that people in other countries read about this awful shit in the same places I do online, and that the differences in mainstream knowledge are about much more basic stuff like coal and climate change being bad while healthcare is good.
Do high school history and social studies classes have a day or a week that discuss US imperialism & shady dealings of recent decades?
No, that's the entire curriculum. Kinda impossible not to properly discuss a country's hystory without mentioning the US when the US has been fucking with it
Which country?
In Brazil there have been several pretty important meddlings, but at most the schools say that there where "several parties involved"
Like our dictatorship, where I'd only learnt "other countries incentivized the coup"
I've heard from many south american comrades, that their school systems have memory-holed this entire historical period of anti-communist massacres. Only now with the pink tide in some of these countries, is there any chance of liberals getting educated about their past.
Oh yeah, 100%
No, that's the entire curriculum [...]
I was asking about what country has US meddling as a considerable fraction of the curriculum
How they will teach about the military dictatorship era of my country without mentioning Operation Condor?
A lot of this is really old so it's the kind of thing my parents casually mentioned when I was growing up.
But then we learn the details at University, either in history classes or more broadly in any kind of discussion of colonialism, neoimperialism, etc.
Belgian here. Nope. No idea what they're on about.
Austrian here - 1st question: no idea. 2nd question: no Same here, US imperialism was never discussed as such in my history lessons during the late 80ies and 90ies. Would read about these atrocities only mich later, maybe in more "official" sources only if you're a student of history or politics and such.
The hell is a USian?
Also, Dude, American is not the preferred nomenclature. USian, please.
I also was hoping it was different from USAian. Needs more 'Merica
Sounds like a term created by those people who get weirdly upset at Americans being called Americans because "America is 2 continents so technically everyone from North and South America is American"
Can't blame them who the fuck would want to get associated with USians
Yea, because it is weird, you dolt. It’s literally just because it’s easier to say that it stuck, but it’s flatly useless. The country’s name is stupid, hard to deal with, and pretty much only the reality on the surface…much like the country itself.
I just say “US citizens”. It would probably be more accurate to say “citizens of the USA” buy my fucking god they aren’t worth that kind of effort.
I don’t usually say “US citizens” because I don’t usually mean only residents with citizenship.
Speaking as a...USian?...many of us know about these already and are ashamed of them.
I can assure you that you are giving the general public far too much credit unfortunately.
Remember, the #1 search on google on Election Day was “did Joe Biden drop out”
Remember, the #1 search on google on Election Day was “did Joe Biden drop out”
Jesus fucking christ. I have not read that before, but it is the most believable thing I’ve seen all week.
I’ll look it up tomorrow. I am always curious, but I cannot handle having this fact confirmed to me right now, lol.
I'm going to bet that if I did one of those street interview things with the question: "Do you know what operation condor is? Do you know what the phoenix program is?" I'd get maybe 1 usonian out of 300 that would have even heard of them.
26k people killed in the Phoneix Program alone.
Rather than 'american' or others, Yankee? It has historical s
Yankee doesn't have an s
Ok, how about yahtzee? It almost has an s.
see that's better. plus it rhymes with their regime.