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[–] [email protected] 252 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I would like to point out a subtle piece of "reporting" that is not only inaccurate, but I believe in there in an attempt to "both sides" the issue and appease Trump.

Newsom and Trump officials exchanged barbs all weekend after Trump federalized and deployed the California National Guard in Los Angeles amid violent anti-ICE protests.

The protests, as evidenced by the livestreams of LA, were almost entirely non-violent. Violence shown was almost entirely ICE committing the violence, such as when they intentionally shot rubber bullets at an Australian reporter in order to scare her away from reporting.

Saying the protests were "violent" does nothing more than give Trump justification for sending troops in the first place. This is intentionally misleading reporting that does nothing but give Trump more cover, possibly in an attempt to "both sides" the issue in case Trump's goons come knocking.

[–] [email protected] 116 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The news sources (even the "leftist" ones) are all owned by billionaires.

The real war is a class war, the minorities are used to make us fight with each other.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago

LBJ said it...

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lbj-convince-the-lowest-white-man/

He wasn't advocating on it, but commenting on the Republican strategy and all the racist shit he saw down in the South

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago (4 children)

There are no major leftist news sources in the United States

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

DemocracyNow! has been pretty good for a long time. Although maybe you wouldn’t call them “major” - but they were on cable TV for at least some time where I live.

Amy Goodman got arrested at the 2008 GOP convention and the Dakota pipeline. Very good bona fides.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Been saying this for forty years...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Begun it has, the war on greed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I sure hope so. I don't want to live the next forty years of my life, as things get increasingly worse.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I want to preface this by saying that I support the protestors and any measures they deem necessary, but what you are saying does not match up with what I’ve witnessed. A live streamer who goes by @LordHito spent several hours streaming the protests after dark. Dozens of protestors seemed to have homemade smoke grenades, as well as rocks and anything else they could hurl easily. Fires were started and windows were broken.

That said, I think those are all entirely justified. The other option is to sit around while democracy dies, and that is unacceptable. There has no doubt been collateral damage, but so it goes in struggles against the government.

100%, the police have been more violent than the protestors and are the true aggressors, but many of protestors have not been the flower children you seem to imply they are. I won’t go so far as to say most, but definitely more than an insignificant amount.

I wish them the best in their struggle. They fight for all of us.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fair points. I will admit that I didn't look at or for every single livestream that was out there. But of all the livestreams I did view, I either saw absolutely nothing at all, a couple of skirmishes that barely qualified as drunken bar fights, and some minor looting. I did not see a single piece of footage that would justify calling in the national guard, and if there is footage out there of riots of the scale that would justify it, Trump would be touting it all over social media in order to make his case.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

I’m completely with you—the response from the government is unjustified, especially against citizens.

I’m reminded of BLM—some areas were very safe and festive while others were more intense. I’m sure the visual looks very different block to block. I saw other live streamers who encountered no violence—LordHito’s just told a different story, and that was largely because he was intentionally looking for trouble.

That said, hearing him get a donation to play the Star Wars Imperial March loudly while the cops advanced was something I’ll never forget.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

ICE committing the violence, such as when they intentionally shot rubber bullets at an Australian reporter

Wasn't that the LAPD? It was an ACAB moment I believe, not ICE specifically.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, does it matter?

They were there supporting ICE raids , deterring protests, and keeping reporters from doing their job. At this point, they're all one and the same.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

LA PD chief stated that they will not report to ICE and that they will only uphold the law. So at least publicly they took a more neutral position

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Fuck the police.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

The administration needed protests that weren't peaceful. So they supplied the violence.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Goebels style propaganda: add a bit of narrative to otherwise true story. Take a look at today's russia it works

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Course he does, he's a moron. You literally cannot say anything of an inflammatory nature without giving him ideas

[–] [email protected] 103 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Einstein 92 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Trump should be hanged for treason.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Mussolini was shot. In a comical fashion

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And then hung. Also comically.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

One of the few cases where that's the correct form of "hung" regarding the execution of someone

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Perhaps don't have the secretary of the Communist Party amnesty fsscists shortly thereafter

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

I think that would be something I'd watch, and I'm not one for capital punishment or public displays of violence.

[–] ThePantser 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Gaddafi his fat ass.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

and california should be a seperate fucking country.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most states probably should be a separated country, I am just worried about states like Texas who will cause more issues that way. You can still do something like we do in Europe with the EU, or Shengen countries etc

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not states, most couldn't survive, but America could certainly Balkanize into several separate entities - New England, Midwest, South, Plains States, West Coast, Southwest, etc. some states like Texas and Florida might be able to survive as stand alone economies, but most couldn't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

They could survive if there was no tax over transactions between states, it wouldn’t make a lot of economic difference.

How do you think something like Lichtenstein exists? Yes they are decently rich, but they just import a lot

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I want to see California form a pact with Oregon and Washington, and then form an alliance with Mexico and Canada. Then MAGA America will be surrounded on 2/3 by hostile foreign nations.

It also means the entire west coast port system would be cut off to MAGA America, and they'd have to pay whatever taxes, tariffs, fees, etc. that California demands. Or they could just ship everything through the Panama canal, at least until CaWaOr (still workshopping the name), can sign a deal with Panama to prohibit MAGA America from using the canal.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Taco the chickenshit now suggests, "someone please arrest this man." Why won't you have him arrested dementia Donny? Did you forget why again.

[–] pelespirit 73 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Soooooo, he's willing to throw Elon under the bus, the richest dude in America (maybe world, don't know), and he's willing to go after governors that make him look like a terrible leader. All of these other oligarchs, what makes you think you'll be special and he won't do the same to you? Answer, he will.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This time it's different. He likes me in a way he doesn't like the others. They were all toxic but he knows I'm true. They made him be like that. He knows I won't.

[–] Jax 1 points 1 day ago

The billionaire is in love with me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

I don't have to fix him because he can fix my country.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

So, did he watch Civil War but not see the ending?

[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The American people are the frogs in the pot of water

The water is getting pretty warm and its about to boil soon and everyone keeps hoping that the water won't get any hotter

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Arresting Newsome is the dumbest move trump could make, so he might do it.

Eleni Kounalakis isnt so.eone I know about, but after a quick Google seems to be a huge improvement over Newsome, and with the election next year she'll drag the Overton window left even before the primary starts to gear up.

And she'd be out to do a lot before the election because she's already declared for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

So in your prediction of the future Trump arrests the governor of California and then just fucks off while that governor's replacement does what they like? I'm not following the logic.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

Fuckin’ try it.

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