America is not a fucking Christian Nation
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Sometimes I really wish the founding fathers were around to just say, “Yeah, we were all atheists when we did this America thing. It just wasn’t fashionable at the time. So this idea that American was founded on Christianity, is well, just bullshit”
I mean they were literally fleeing religious persecution. Why would they bake religion into what they were creating?
While they were fleeing religious persecution, they were not atheists. The original Pilgrims were Christians who believed the church of England to be beyond redemption. All of the founding fathers were raised in some Christian belief system, and more or less practiced their respective branches of Christianity.
They were certainly more open-minded in accepting beliefs that deviated from their own, but also certainly not atheist.
The pilgrims weren't really fleeing religious persecution. In the UK they faced the consequences of their religion's actions after they took power during the interregum and were just the fucking worst, including banning Christmas. So they fled to the Netherlands where they were horrified to learn that religious freedom didn't give them the right to force their religious beliefs on others. So they fled religious tolerance to America where they were able to be as awful as they wanted
Eh, some were about as close to atheist as the social norms of the time would really permit. If you look at Jefferson, he made his own version of "the" bible in which he excised all the superstition. In their day, the Inquisition was still going on (ended in 1834) and making your own version of "the" bible was exactly the kind of thing that would get you declared a "heretic".
And then there is Thomas Paine...certainly being a Deist is something likely to get you in trouble with the crazy Inquisition types...as well as the Southern Baptists today...
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In fairness a lot of the people "fleeing religious persecution" were the nutcases who thought there wasn't enough of it.
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the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion
-- Treaty of Tripoli, 1797
My face when I found out the US has opening prayers in the house of government:
Seperation of... What was it again? logic and reason?
Money and fools.
(We're the fools, they get the money.)
Do you not? And if so help, I'm stuck on a continent filled with nutjobs
Yeah, that's the really fucked up part of all of this. Being a USian, I knew this kind of thing, though.
This Karen is just miffed that xtianity is not given maximum unwarranted special privileges: "oh, we'll allow you people who have not opted in to our chosen lifestyle to exist (for now), but at every opportunity, we'll rub your noses in it that we think our chosen lifestyle's adherents are special little snowflakes that deserve praise for their lifestyle, and use the government to do it."
The US was founded as a secular state.. No getting around that. There were only a few devout christians in the original group of founding fathers. Most were deist. They had the recent memory of the thirty years wars where catholic and protestant armies had rampaged back and forth across Europe stealing the peoples food. Raping and burning out anyone who wouldn't convert. They did this to many who did convert. It was said at the time that they everyone kept two sets of bibles. They just hid one or the other depending on who had taken over at the time. That asshole regressive wouldn't ever be willing to admit that. Because she is too stupid to learn it.
A secular nation shouldn’t be having in house prayers from any denomination.
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American was founded as a Christian nation
-- Every American Christian Bigot
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
-- First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States
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Don't forget:
The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
-- John Adams
Honestly who could say what they meant by that, it's such an open to interpretation remark.
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“As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religious or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslim peoples], and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.” - Treaty of Tripoli, signed 1797.
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Thomas Jefferson had his own personally edited version of the Bible that focused on the philosophies and stories in the Bible, and left out the supernatural mythology and fairy tales. There were parts of the religion he liked, but he was clearly uncomfortable with the actual religious parts of it.
And he actually WROTE the founding documents.
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Wow just the fact that she feels emboldened enough to dribble out this poison and post it online is telling.
Who's doing anything about it? Nobody is marching on their representative's homes and offices. No letter-campaigns, we can't even be bothered to vote as a country without it turning into the apathy-olympics.
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GOP keeps saying 'this is a Christian nation', but they don't want understand separation of church and state.
There is no state religion. If you open a state body to prayer, then all prayer is allowed, not just the prayers you want.
Long live the satanic temple.
There should be no prayer in a secular institution
It’s a place for running a government not magical thinking
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The thought path of a short-minded individual: Turban->Muslim.
I'm all for a minimum IQ to enter politics. This would probably disqualify 50% of Congress & Senate. And 100% of the cabinet.
I heard somewhere that one of the first hate crimes against Muslims following 9/11 was against a Sikh person...
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Well you see, the thing about conservatives is that they are fucking stupid.
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She 100% doesn't know that Muslims and Sikhs are different, and doesn't care.
Terrified of all brown people, like half of America post 9/11
It’s deeply troubling that a Muslim was allowed to lead prayer in the House of Representatives this morning. This should have never been allowed to happen
I believe our government should reflect that truth.
She's right: leading prayer in Congress at all should never be allowed. Government should reflect the truth of a secular government.
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This lady won with 73% of the vote in 2020, 71% in 2022, and unopposed in 2024. She is exactly what the people in that area want and that's sad. The US is like social media. It's not the platform it's the users that make it garbage.
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Poor Sikhs always catching strays...
Also, yo, I kind of hate this country.
“America was founded as a christian country”
You mean back when Christian people were so rabid that they thought of Catholics, the OG jesus folks, the way this lady sees any non-christian religion?
Maryland was created as the birthplace of religious freedom in this country specifically because catholics had nowhere else to go in the colonies without getting harassed. Ultimately, the concept of religious freedom would be elevated to a higher place of importance than christian snobbery by the time America was forming a country. Religious freedom was part of escaping the thumb of the King of England and other monarchs.
So, on the one hand, Miller is truly going old school by being a bigoted fuckhead. But on the other, she seems to have no idea that “America” would not exist if people hadnt been willing to tell the bigoted majority of protestants to shut the fuck up, and force them to live and let live
And here come all the nuts feeling brazen about open christian nationalism in a budding theocracy.
What a cunt.
Ignorant cunt at that. Calling this a Christian nation is a joke to anyone who isn't a fascist hoping to use religion as a bludgeon.
LOL, she should change her name to Karen.
JFC.
Dumbfuck can't even get her religions straight, and apparently she thinks America was founded to be a Christian theocracy. Astoundingly ignorant and misinformed, yet there she sits Congress, governing the nation with her 2 brain cells.
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Pepperidge farms remembers when bigots were shamed away from talking not their target minorities.
This is indeed deeply troubling. Whoever voted for that racist piece of shit should be ashamed
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Why does the House of Representatives even have prayer in the mornings to begin with?
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Yet another Sikh man misidentified as a Muslim (not that it would matter if they were) by some backwood dumb fuck using weaponized religion.
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These racist politician assholes should never ever be allowed to represent us in government.
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