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[–] [email protected] 128 points 1 week ago (2 children)

All the more reason for me not to purchase it.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (3 children)

After the initial excitement I think the Switch 2 is gonna bomb. Offers too little for too much.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe if it was 349 or 399... but 499 is wild

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's not even the biggest issue for me. The $80 games that never get discounted will cost a lot more than that pretty quickly. Plus I know they push their subscription service too.

As a PC gamer, fuck that. I'll play cheap better games on my free operating system that I actually control on my hardware that I can repair and replace easily. Nintendo games interest me, but not nearly at the price they're asking for with what they're offering.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I implore people to watch the teardown guide itself, which is way more nuanced than the clickbaity The Verge article.

I'm not a fan of the use of glue in the joycon sides and the fact that the color strips under the controllers are hiding screws. The bigger complaint is the battery glue, especially because you can imagine aftermarket parts with bigger capacity could be a thing here. I definitely wouldn't open this thing unless it has a problem.

Some components are still modular, which is nice. I can't imagine the sticks not having changed design is great, but it's entirely possible they're way more durable, which the teardown acknowledges. Keep in mind that, while all controllers can drift, most controllers don't fail that way. It's possible to build this type of stick without widespread issues. Time will tell, though.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (19 children)

The switch 2 gives out complete apple vibes. It's repairability is pretty horrid after watching the teardown guide.

Controllers will fail sooner or later and will have to be replaced. Here it will end up replacing the whole stick just due to glueing small parts of the controller.

Battery will also fail sooner than later. The whole thing yells planned absolesence...

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really appreciate iFixit and how they help bring the discussion of repairability to the forefront.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Part of the difficulty is that Nintendo have hitsquads that will blow your city if you even look sideways at one of the screw.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Blow a whole city? That's dedication

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not surprising. Nintendo is turning into the Apple of the video game world.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nintendo has been the Apple of the video game world since the N64.

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[–] ayyy 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even Apple makes more repairable hardware.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean yeah, I wouldn't expect otherwise. Nobody hates their fans more than Nintendo does.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago

Not surprised, given it's Nintendo. My Switch Lite has seen very little use since I got my Steam Deck, tho.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Hope the drift issue is fixed. Ran into the issue with two of mine. The paper under the joystick hack didn't work and one of the brand new replacement joysticks I installed isn't responsive. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Spoiler alert: it's not. Same joysticks as last time.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's the same joystick design. As the video says that doesn't mean it will have the same issues as frequently, but it does mean it can have the same issues. The question will be at what rate.

Given the coverage I have very low hopes that we will get a good idea of that from the press. Instead I expect the first Switch 2 joycon to drift will be put on an auction sale for every clickbait article to parade in front of people with rotten tomatoes at the ready. Still, it will matter if it's one in two or one in a million.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (11 children)

They could have easily fixed it with hall effect sticks. That is a proven and inexpensive solution, but Nintendo prefers to sell more joycons and create waste, it's that simple.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Are you fucking kidding? They didn't switch to Hall effect?

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not, and the joycons are even HARDER to repair due to a piece of plastic glued over a screw on the inside..

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Congrats it's worse! Harder to get to :)

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not a problem. I wasn't gonna buy one amyways.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Great video. That's a disappointing outcome though.

It was interesting to hear though that Nintendo hasn't made any replacement parts available for the original switch, despite the fact that New York State apparently requires this by law.

I wonder if they'll be forced to comply with that at some point. There are probably other jurisdictions that require this or that will require this soon. I'd love to see some pressure applied to companies that don't make replacement parts available.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

At this point I trust in the EU to force Nintendo to play the right-to-repair game.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, the EU has shown they're serious when it comes to consumer protections. It's great to see!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

For example, coming into effect in 12 days, on the 20th of June, for smartphones and tablets:

  • Durability: Devices should be resistant to accidental drops and protected against dust and water.

  • Battery longevity: Batteries must endure at least 800 full charge and discharge cycles while retaining at least 80% of their original capacity.

  • Repairability: Manufacturers must make critical spare parts available within 5 to 10 working days, and continue offering them for 7 years after the product is no longer sold in the EU.

  • Software support: Devices must receive operating system upgrades for at least 5 years from the end-of-sale date.

  • Repair access: Professional repairers must have non-discriminatory access to any required software or firmware.

They will also have to include a sticker on packaging that has standardised information on it concerning energy efficiency, battery life, repeated drop test results, battery endurance in charging cycles, repairability score, and water/dust protection rating:

Source

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[–] Plebcouncilman 25 points 1 week ago (7 children)

What’s the appeal of the switch for when PC handhelds exist ? I just don’t get it why you would buy this unless you had children. Nintendo Games are good but they’re really not that good either.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (4 children)

People like playing Nintendo original games. Mario games, Zelda games, etc.

The only way to legally play those is on the switch.

Yes, even non children play those games.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Mario. Zelda. Metroid. For a time the occasional Splatoon. Maybe a Wario once in a while too. Some Pikmin. Even the built-in (paid) list of emulator games are attractive.

Also, you severely underestimate the convenience factor for a lot of people. Yeah, I have a Steam Deck, and 95% of the time, it's a completely seamless experience. With consoles, it's 100% of the time. People want a "I turn it on, I start a game", not a "I turn it on, I might be able to start a game, and sometimes it needs a bit of fiddling, not much, but, more than zero. And sure, I could have this or that other thing by going there and running that, you know, sometimes".

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have children, like their first party titles, and dislike piracy. I also have a PC handheld that gets more use than the Switch, and I like both.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Battery life and weight. That’s what keeps me from getting a pc handheld. Although the switch 2 is so big I don’t know if that holds true anymore

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wonder if Nintendo will ever embrace repairability like some phone companies have

I guess there's more competition in phones than in devices that can run Mario Cart

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

If you consider how hostile they are with everything else, I highly doubt it. Nintendo never again

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Haha when they did that blog post to change the switch from 8/10 to 4/10 saying they don't normally do that but wanted to make sure you could compare the 2 properly against the original, I thought they were making space for the 2 to be above the original, not that they were going to mark it as worse 😅

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

This was inevitable. Everybody who was ever going to buy a Switch has already bought one. How else are they going to make more money? Keep increasing prices and keep cutting costs (enshittification essentially). These two will be the centre of all big business for the coming years.

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