Last time I did, it was thanks to canonical pushing snaps and other things no one asked for.
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When the Distro starts talking about enterprise features during the installation process (looking at you canonical)
Other than massive breakage, I'm not sure. Completely reinstalling and reconfiguring my setup is a pain in the ass, in part because of my slow internet connection. But damn if Ubuntu isn't trying to find out.
I've changed distro's a bunch of times personally and for business I have influence in a bunch of times in the last 30 odd years.
Slackware -> Redhat -> Suse -> Ubuntu -> Debian.
The reasons for each were ( as best I can recall ).
Slackware to Redhat was just because a proper package manager made sense at the time. I think the Redhat releases were a bit more up to date too.
Redhat to Suse was because Redhat stopped doing the free long term releases, the short term ones were too short to be workable.
Suse to Ubuntu was a similar thing to Redhat with Suse trying to push you into the enterprise version.
Ubuntu to Debian most recently was due to the Ubuntu releases coming with more and more unwanted crap, we had been running mint on desktops to avoid whatever their mutant gnome reskin was called and then their regular gnome releases, but we were still running regular Ubuntu on servers. Eventually when they started putting pretty core stuff in snaps we decided to move to Debian.
Hopefully that is the last migration we have to do for a while.
I've been using openSuSe Tumbleweed on one device or another for quite a while now. Recently I switched my last device, so I'm officially 100% Tumbleweed. NGL, feels pretty good. I would, however, switch under a few circumstances:
- openSuSe releases Tumbleweed clone with systemD alternative (like runit). I've tried Void repeatedly, but unfortunately never really fell in live with it.
- openSuSe releases NixOS style immutable distro (not the current aeon or kalpa) based on Tumbleweed.
Honestly, Tumbleweed is nearly perfect for me. It's just that I've tasted what life without systemD can be like, and I goddamn miss it... I'm totally hooked on openSuSe products though.
Out of curiosity how is life without systemd better? What does it taste like?
I wait and let everyone figure out what the least broken Linux distro is.
Debian is stable. Stable is good, for an operating system; because I actually want to use my computer.
Not play with the operating system for 4-6 hours per day.
I tried so hard to get Debian working on my new build. Problem being: it's a new build. Debian's glacial pacing meant my hardware won't see support for a while. I might try again when Trixie finally releases, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
So I guess my answer is... I'll distro hop when stability & support reach equal levels.
I moved from Redhat when they started pulling the shit around getting paid for their source. I understand why they did it, but I disagreed with that choice and I moved.
I quit Ubuntu when I finally had enough of their insistence on their way for everything such as firefox via snap, sure I can and did work around their shit, but why the fuck should I?
I would move from Opensuse if they did something similar, if it became unreliably maintained, or if something much better came along.
I love my Tumbleweed install. It is rolling and new while also being rock solid. But I do have the itch to try new stuff which j do sometimes
Saturday for some
Similar to other users - repos go down or corporate stuff starts to creep in.
As long as I get to maintain agency over my system I’m pretty content.
An operating system is a means to an end. I'm not looking to critique a package manager, I'm looking to get work done. If it can support the applications I need it's perfect.
I used to distro hop all the time until I settled on Tumbleweed. I used that for eight years until Suse bared their corporate teeth and I got fed up with being two generations behind on the Nvidia drivers. I've been using EndeavourOS for almost a year and don't see me moving any time soon.
There was a power loss, my PC was on UPS for some time and UPS battery started running low. I initiated the shutdown and systemd stopped it because it could not find a network share on the already stopped server. It didn't gave up so I ended with fucked filesystem because the battery died. Switched to systemd free distro the day after.
The ability to wake up the laptop from sleep.
Damn, do I regret going with Fedora. Anything newer than kernel 6.10 (which I salvaged from Fedora 39) and my laptop doesn't wake up from sleep anymore.
But changing distros is a hassle and idiot me went with a single partition for system and data, so migrating to another distro requires me to actually backup everything, so I haven't done it yet.
A whim, usually.
I used ubuntu for 10+ yr and switched because of firefox snap. To fedora. Wow it is so much better here
I've been settling on Linux Mint more and more as my generic workhorse distro. I have the least amount of issues with it out of the box compared to any other desktop distro.
It's clean, relatively low bloat, includes codecs and drivers for basically everything I've ever needed to use/do, and Cinnamon's only crime as a DE is looking kind of boring. But it's easy to select a new theme, so not really a huge issue either.
I use a bunch of different distros for different purposes, but if you held a gun to my head and made me pick a distro I had to use exclusively for the rest of my life, it would be Mint with Cinnamon.
If something was to replace it, it would have to be even cleaner, simpler to setup, and have even better general stability and compatibility.
I used Debian for more than a decade, then tried Arch when I got some near hardware... I did like being a beta tester, so I went for Void.
The only thing that would make me switch to another distro is if Void stops existing.
Currently switching my desktops from alpine to void just for the fun of it. Servers will always be alpine but void just feels right on the desktop!
Pretty pleased with OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. Only reason for me to change would be if there were a Debian based rolling release distro with the same quality as Tumbleweed.
Debian for about two decades: It would take something pretty major to shift me - probably a hostile takeover, major policy shift or commercialisation, none of which is likely.
At worked we shifted from Centos to Rocky for the obvious reason, and are happy with the choice so far.
Using Debian for probably a decade now (before that, various Linux distributions).
IMHO only community driven distributions with great (in size as in quality) communities are worth investing time/energy and learning.
One reason to ditch Debian would be that the software I need to run would not run anymore on it or that there would be a too strong commercial influence on the project. Another reason is for play/entertainment where better options exist (SteamOS) or if I need up to date hardware support (Fedora).
After more than two decades with Linux, I will not play around with non mainstream distributions anymore. Have seen too many come and go, and in the end I would rather do something interesting with my computer than playing around with the Linux distribution of the week.
Switched from Fedora to Debian. Here are my reasons:
- That computer doesn’t need the latest versions. Debian is new enough for me.
- The update GUI has been broken for years. I fixed it once, but then it broke again after a year. I’ve been installing updates from the terminal, because I can’t trust the GUI. I realized I appreciate reliability, and that’s exactly what Debian is all about.
- Can’t be bothered to do much admin work like that.
what or if you have it takes for you to want to switch to a different distro?
Any meaningful difference that improves my use. I'm a pragmatist, not a distro zealot.
Something going catastrophically wrong with my current installation in a way that I can't fix.
Eh, probably if Guix becomes significantly better I'll switch to it (from NixOS). I really like how seriously they take user freedom, bootstrapping (only 357 bytes of binary to bootstrap everything else from source!) and consistent user interfaces (scheme everywhere). But unfortunately the package repo is just not big and mature enough yet, and declarative configuration options are not as good as they are with NixOS. My job is also Nix-related, and that's another major reason I'm staying for now.
At this point i think nix would have to die. I like the declaritive way of doing things, and invested a lot of time in learning how to use it.
I've been using Arch (BTW) for a few years now. I would only consider switching to something non-Arch if they started enshittifying like Windows. I don't see that happening though.
Was a Ubuntu user from 9.10 until 20.04; snap shittyness caused me to hop around for a while. Settled on Mint a few years ago.
It's stable, gets out of my way and lets me get my work done.
I've been using Artix Linux for 5 years. Its great, minimal, and does everything I need for my day to day tasks.
If I were to ever change, it'd probably be because the devs could no longer maintain it. In which case I'd probably just hop to Gentoo.
I like the question. Nothing would make me change. I use Debian for servers and fedora for my desktop. The distro is not what makes it good or not. The window manager does not change the only think that does change is the package manager and how up to date it is.
I only use Debian for servers because the installer makes it super easier to install without a wm.
I use fedora for my desktop because I like the atomic versions and more up to date packages.
The repo servers going down or some unacceptable change to the system defaults. Starting to distribute my browser (or anything else) as only snaps / flatpaks would absolutely do it. Yeah, I'm looking squarely at you, Ubuntu.
I used Fedora KDE from 2012 to 2023, then I moved to Fedora Kinoite because I like the idea of atomic distros. Don't know if that counts though since its mostly the same software, just delivered slightly differently (however you could argue that is the case for all distros)
I made the jump from Manjaro when a bunch of their maintained repos started to ... corrode? for lack of a better term, other than that I tend to adapt to whatever my workplace chooses, last place loved Ubuntu, current workplace is all about RHEL, so i'm not going to argue
Modern desktop enviroment design, and seamless updates like in macOS