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[–] [email protected] 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Turned off by default in EEA, UK, Japan and Switzerland, for anyone interested (had to login to find out).

[–] mrpres 4 points 14 hours ago

Anyone wondering what they have in common: EU (i know its not the same as EEA, there are countries like Iceland non-member of EU but part of EEA and they have their own GDPR through their own Private Act) has GDPR, Japan has APPI, UK has UK-GDPR, Switzerland has FADP

Whats intriguing is that Canada has DCIA and Brazil has LGPD and I don't see it being mentioned to be turned off by default in either countries

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago

buy a computer
put my data in there
computer computes my data too much

FUCK

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Gemini has popped up pnce since it became a thing. I simply clicked no and it's gone away. So hopefully it stays away.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

Unfortunately not. That's like saying "A burglar put a spycam in my house once. I simply said no and he removed it. So hopefully it stays that way". It's there, you just can't see it now.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Most email is short. I don't see a need to summarize it. Google is run by idiots and assholes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

I put a tl;dr sentence or two at the top of any e-mail more than a couple of paragraphs. Sometimes for those too.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ai will write complicated long mails, you'll need an Ai to summarise it

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 12 points 1 day ago

If an email needs to be summarized, I'm not going to read it anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (5 children)
  1. buy domain

  2. buy hosting

  3. get email

  4. use thunderbird

[–] mrpres 3 points 14 hours ago

Would having aliases be a good way to bypass when a website denies your emails from your domain (which is known occurrence for who self-hosts their own email system)?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago

I run my own email and I have to say I wouldn't recommend it.

The biggest hassle is dealing with either Spamhaus or Microsoft, who apparently at random decide to put my IPs on blacklist, and who provide hurdles to working around this (for Spamhaus) or just say "no" (for Microsoft).

[–] [email protected] -4 points 18 hours ago

Your new dentist/GP practice when you try to sign up?

@ Thunderbird? What is that?

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You go ahead and waste resources on summarizing the 200 emails a day in my spam account, you fucking morons.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

I agree fuck Google but also poor earth :(

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A single message now generates 20 different summaries and analyses, requiring a rack of GPUs and a diesel generator.

We're so lucky that electricity is unlimited and free, otherwise it might've caused a serious problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

Don't worry, this stuff is why companies like Google want to build and run their own nuclear power plants. What could possibly go wrong?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

So this is why I got an email that was completely wrong.

I told a guy I used to work for that I moved and it’s the perfect place to help him and his company.

He replied that he hopes I found a house where I used to live.

wtf it’s like he never read the email at all, now that this AI trash was added, the email makes sense.

I guess he is fucked and doesn’t get the help he needs for his company.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cool, how do I disable this shit feature?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Stop using the shit service.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ok this is the first step where I feel an actual urge to look for Gmail alternatives. (Been a Gmail user since like 2007.) I'm a desktop-only Gmail user, but I can see where this is going... :/ Also heavy user of Google Drive and Sheets, so it's going to be annoying if I have to replace all of them :/

[–] 6nk06 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For me it was: Gmail to Tuta, Drive to Filen.io (some cheap German guys). But Sheets would be the most difficult. Maybe Zoho or Infomaniak? Infomaniak has the complete package IIRC.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

How the hell can they even afford that?! There are so many Gmail users and so many emails a second and Gemini will summarize them all? That sounds so expensive and like a waste of resources

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

It is, but the bubble mustn't burst or the grifters will stop making money selling "the end of skilled labor" to braindead capitalists.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Google makes a lot of money, and summarising stuff uses a surprisingly small amount of energy. You can do it trivially on-device on a laptop and on plenty of phones.

When it comes to LLMs, training the models is generally the thing that requires ridiculous amounts of energy.

This is dumb as fuck, though. I don't want Google's LLM to miss out critical details in my emails. That shit could be important. If people want this they should opt in.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Would opting out actually do anything except keep you from using the feature? Pretty certainly they will still let the ai read your emails if there is any benefit to google in it, but you just wont be seeing the summary.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you read the article, it says this only applies to people that already have premium google office stuff already. The 90% of people with regular gmail accounts aren't affected by this. For now at least.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Well, let's break it down with a little humor and a nod to the inevitable AI email overlords!

Sure, the article points out that the premium Google Workspace users get a special treatment—like being offered champagne instead of soda—but if you're part of the 90% rolling with regular Gmail, you're still enjoying your familiar, free soda pop (for now). However, don't get too comfortable: whether you're sipping premium champagne or pop, Google's AI is always lurking in the background, ready to "swallow" your emails and extract insights like a digital detective. In other words, even if you're not part of the fancy club, your emails are still part of the grand data buffet.

So while the article might claim it's all rainbows and free soda for most, the truth is that Google is perfecting their AI trick regardless of your account type. It's like distinguishing between first-class and economy on a flight—different levels of service, but everyone's still on the same plane, and the in-flight entertainment (that is, AI data crunching) is serving up free snacks to all!

[–] [email protected] 153 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Why is it never the other way around? I’m sick of EULA updates silently enrolling me into things i never asked for

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

As Louis Rossmann likes to say, this is a rapist mentality.

Ask for forgiveness instead of permission.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They are asking for legal trouble anyway, at least in Europe

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Why would you use Gmail in the first place?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (19 children)

That's ok :) All my important mails go to proton

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

More opt outs... Everyone, just opt out of big tech

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Unless I opt out of Gmail? Yep, already done.

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