this post was submitted on 29 May 2025
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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago

Oh, so this is why all of a sudden, they have video proof Epstein did kill himself....

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah .... we're screwed

When marketers and promoters developed media campaigns, marketing gimmicks, subtle sales and print marketing just over 100 years ago ... it make some wealthy people even more wealthy. It also dawned a new age of Propaganda which morphed into what they call 'Public Relations' and modern day communications. All of it meant that governments, corporations, businesses and political entities and owners could use the media and every media format to subtly guide and manage the global population to buy certain things, think certain ways, believe certain things and basically control the population as best they could to get everyone to side with the things they wanted them to believe. It was always difficult because its not that easy to market to someone for decades before they eventually figure out what is happening ..... for most people anyway ... as some are more likely to figure it out than others.

Now that we will be able to generate realistic looking images, voices and sounds of anyone and even create entirely new characters out of thin air ..... everyone's grasp of reality is about to become unhinged.

Our owners took the wheels of communications 100 years ago to use it all to their advantage to shape the world around them and get everyone to buy certain things, believe certain things and bring down any kind of opposition thought or processes that would impact their wealth in any way.

We're at those crossroads again. And judging by our human track record so far .... it won't be for the betterment of all humanity ... it will be for the betterment and control of a small subset of humanity, at the cost of everyone else.

[–] funkless_eck 3 points 3 days ago

arguably the sophists in 500 BCE were the first marketers / pr managers.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't really get the concern. Anyone who cares about understanding reality isn't looking to social media for it, and the people who don't care about reality don't need AI to believe whatever nonsense is convenient for them.

Are we doomed? Yes, but AI isn't changing that.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Look at how much disinformation and propaganda makes it's way around the web. Now imagine those things are backed up with videos of people saying them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm not convinced that the group of people who are already skeptical of the veracity of the non-AI content they see on social media are going to suddenly start believing that short form videos are reflecting reality simply because an AI made it instead of a human. The current problem with misinformation isn't that it's "too poorly animated".

EDIT: I should say if and when CNN starts generating realistic AI videos claiming they are reality, then we have a problem. But anyone skeptical of randomdude69's Tweets is not going to start believing them "because AI".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not convinced that the group of people who are already skeptical of the veracity of the non-AI content

Okay well that's not the group I'm talking about. I'm talking about the general public.

I should say if and when CNN starts generating realistic AI videos

The overwhelming majority of disinformation is not being distributed by CNN. It's being distributed by "influencers". AKA nobodies who have no qualifications but speak authoritatively and people believe them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Okay well that’s not the group I’m talking about.

you responded to my comment (about that group)???

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This comment?

I don't really get the concern

Yes. I sure did. Thats the concern.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

blocking you. you cant remove half my comment then try to gaslight me into believing i meant something other than what i said.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

An entire article about realistic video and not one mention of porn?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTJvdGcb7Fs&ab_channel=BroadwayClassics

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I don't understand why after generating 8 seconds, it can't just use that as the base to generate more, and so on for unlimited length. Once they figure that out, I think society will deteriorate even faster.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Outside of computing costs, there is no limit to the length of video generated, but keeping the output coherent and contextual for more than a few seconds is a completely different puzzle to solve.

Same reason ChatGPT 3.0 could make realistic Reddit comments half a decade ago but the latest models still can't generate more than a paragraph or two before losing the thread.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

there's been talk of "ai collapse" over the past few months, where models get trained on their own output and gradually get worse. video models basically need to work on data that's collapsing in real-time as each frame builds on the previous. if you try to generate more it just turns into mush because there are already thousands of imperceptible but compounding errors in the data that exponentially get worse. the trick with making longer clips is staving off those compounding errors by stabilising the data for as long as possible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago