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[–] Alk 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Since people in New Jersey aren't allowed to pump their own gas, they should also have to call someone to drive to their house and plug in their electric vehicle for them every time they have to charge.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It would make a similar amount of sense.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Refusing to let people pump their own gas meant that many people who otherwise could not find meaningful work could find a job pumping gas.

[–] Kecessa 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So they could have just been paid to do anything else instead and they would have been happier and probably more productive to society.

Get them stuck in a shitty job instead of giving them the opportunity to go to school to find a better job

[–] RowRowRowYourBot 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, this is for guys like my buddy's brother who can't do anything else because they lack the mental capacity. There's a bunch of people who could not work anything more complicated than a pump and squeegee.

By letting Russ work he feels like he's contributing to his community because he is. It also lets him see more people than he would at his group home.

If Russ didn't have this job he would just be at the group home.

[–] Kecessa 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There's plenty of jobs like that that are actually useful though, I would much rather see more people sorting through what people send to be recycled than seeing people get paid to pump gas in a V8 SUV.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There are more people that can use these jobs than there are jobs for them

[–] Kecessa 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm talking about jobs that they already have a hard time finding enough people to do it, so no, pumping gas isn't a necessary job.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And Im saying guys like Russ can't do those jobs.

[–] Kecessa 1 points 3 days ago

Right, because for some reason the only thing Russ is able to do is to take a nozzle, put it in a car and pump gas, ALL and I mean ALL other jobs in existence are impossible for him to do.

EVERY

SINGLE

ONE

OF

THEM

[–] Alk 6 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I'm sure electric pluggers would also create lots of jobs.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Easily one of the weirdest "solutions" to unemployment. It's a tax. Nobody needs a gas station attendant (aside from disability, but that's not why NJ has the law). They are taxing gas companies to provide money directly to people. They're just also making those people work a meaningless job, because capitalism.

Can't have something for nothing - no, no, in this society you can only have something in exchange for an appreciable portion of your remaining life on earth, even if you ultimately give up that portion of your life for literally nothing.

I love these "star signs" themed political commentary though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I wouldn’t call it meaningless. I don’t have to get out of my car into nasty weather. Disabled people get helped without having to make a big fuss about it. And some people actually do like the job, as strange as that might sound.

Back in the day they’d wash your windows, check your tire pressure, and maybe ask you how your day was going too. Nothing wrong with service.

What pisses me off is all these jobs gone, and yet the gas didn’t get any cheaper. Seems like self-checkout; the companies convincing people that doing their jobs for them for no pay so they can pocket all the profit is great actually.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oregon legalized self-service a couple years ago, though stations still have to have attendant service too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Just in case an old person who can't pump their own gas shows up

[–] akilou 4 points 3 days ago

Only some counties in Oregon. Everywhere in NJ

[–] atomicbocks 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I have never understood why so many people have an issue with an obvious jobs program.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Broken window fallacy

Destroying people's ability to pump their gas then "fixing" it with a job program.

Might as well let people pump their gas and then give the "workers" money and time. Consumers would pay the same and the "workers" still get the same money but extra time to hopefully better themselves rather than being stuck pumping gas for 8 hours a day.

"Creating jobs" only works when the jobs are needed for the society.

Creating a job just to justify paying someone is absurd.

[–] atomicbocks 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Perfection is the enemy of good fallacy.

We aren’t getting rid of gas stations or capitalism anytime soon, this is something that we can do right now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Let's say the gas station worker makes $15 an hour

Let's say gas is $3 per gallon

That means if the gas station worker wasn't there the gas station could give away 5 gallons of gas for free per hour and still make the same profit.

Which is better for the whole society? One person making $15 an hour doing a task that 49 other states have no problem doing themselves. Or 1 person from the community getting 5 free gallons of gas every hour?

If you never stop paying that person $15 an hour, you can never move on to better things.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And efficiency. If you spend time in the south, people park at the pump and then just wander off. Scratch off some lottery tickets. Get a soda. Use the bathroom. Write a sonnet. All sorts of shit.

Do that in NJ and traffic would back up onto the parkway and down ten exits.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

And every transaction on the one open register: Lemme get uhhhhhhhhh two number twelves… uhhhhhhhhhhhhh a quick pick… uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh two rolls of the Kodiak long cut… uhhhhhhhhhhhh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

And we can add in what feels like half the gas stations I go to in Eastern PA. Especially now that more people are being forced to commute again.