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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

The kids are going to be alright. They grew up with phones and learned in schools that there are times when it's inappropriate to use it.

I'm much more worried about the older people who have absolutely no etiquette for phone usage.

When my teenager has friends over they literally stack their phones and do whatever they met up to do.

When the grandparents come over they sit and fiddle candy crush and Facebook like their life depended on it.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 days ago

yeah, because it's almost midnight

goodnight

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 days ago (3 children)

"One startup from the Netherlands is trying to accommodate them by organizing offline meetups."

OF COURSE THEY HAVE TO FUCKING CAPITALIZE "NOT USING YOUR PHONE" AND MEETING REAL PEOPLE

FUCK THIS EXISTANCE

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"meeting real people" has been subject to capitalism since the first enterprising individual opened a pub … a couple thousand years ago.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

Can you explain to me what you think capitalism is?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

That's not capitalism

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

Ironic that it works (I presume) via an app

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So like meetup.com? At least there it's true younger people don't show up on any of the events

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Meetup was bought by Bending Spoons, one of the worst predatory companies around. It's dying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

I didn't know, but it's not dying. It's a lot more active than some years ago

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Interesting that for many people one obstacle to a desired reduction in phone usage is that it has become in practical terms more difficult to not use a phone.

It is tech with a lot of addictive design, and people are increasingly becoming aware of it.

But there are quite a few things one can do. For example, I am using again a traditional wristwatch, instead of looking at the phone. The reason is that I do not like to constantly look at my phone when I just need to know the time.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I absolutely HATE when a restaurant forces me to use my phone to see their stupid QR code menu.

I understood the idea when COVID was a large factor, but now it’s just greedy and lazy on their part. I’ll tolerate it the one time and then won’t go back.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It has some advantages for the restaurant though.

  • They can easily update the menu without having to reprint it ( update to lunch menu, typos, ... )
  • It doesn't get damaged by spilling drinks on it.
  • it's cheaper
  • doesn't waste paper

Some restaurants will go even further and let you order/pay and the just bring your order to the table. The places that do this often still allow you to order through a waiter/waitress though.

What exactly is lazy about it? That they won't make the effort to print it and laminate it/ put it in a fancy cover?

Like with e-readers, you can complain it doesn't have the same feel and doesn't give the same feeling when reading it. Even say it's impractical if you want to go back and forth. But to claim it is just pure greed and laziness is a bit of a stretch.

The biggest downside imo would be that (a) you'd need a capable smartphone, (b) a functioning internet connection/website and (c) it being too complicated for older generations/less tech savvy people.

You're entitled to not like it though :). I'm not too fond of it myself either.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

They can also easily change their pricing when there's a higher demand or any other whim.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

Let's be honest: The amount of work to print out one or two pages and put it into one of those menu thingies is near zero. They are also quite cheap, you can keep around multiple printed menus without breaking the bank. This is not preventing restaurants from changing their prices

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What makes you think they'd change prices on a whim? More likely they'll change the prices based on whatever they learn from the browser fingerprint of whoever at your table is first to scan the code. Better get the intern to go first, just in case.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Because they can? Capitalism, and so on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Greed is unlimited.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

I'm okay wth it if they also provide free Wi-fi on premises. Otherwise they'd be using my data plan for their business.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For example, I am using again a traditional wristwatch, instead of looking at the phone. The reason is that I do not like to constantly look at my phone when I just need to know the time.

but then you lose precious screentime where you could see your notifications and ads, use a smartwatch!!! -- tech moguls.

I use a traditional wristwatch as well and a walkman (cassette or my digital walkman), my smartphone is really just only for communications.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Other things I use are a chip card for local train tickets (it never runs out of battery) and a PC with a solid real two-factor authentication based on chipcard and an optical TAN generator for banking.

And when I am exploring new areas on the bike, I sometimes just use the old paper maps - they don't run out of battery either, and they give s much better overview than a tiny phone screen.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

The article is lacking some hard numbers.

It cites Bitcom on constant high screen time But Bitcom is an industrial lobby group. They are for example anti-privacy and anti-data protection. I wouldn't expect them to publish anything which is not in the interest of Big Tech.