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Absolutely needed: to get high efficiency for this beast ... as it gets better, we'll become too dependent.

"all of this growth is for a new technology that’s still finding its footing, and in many applications—education, medical advice, legal analysis—might be the wrong tool for the job,,,"

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago (5 children)

The energy issue almost feels like a red herring for distracting all idiots from actual AI problems and lemmy is just gobbling it up every day. It's so tiring.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Partly, yep. Seems like every time I try to pin down an AI on a detail of a question worth asking - a math question, or a date in history, it'll confidently reply with the first answer it finds ... right or wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I don't think accuracy is an issue either. I've been on the web since inception and we always had a terribly inaccurate information landscape. It's really about individual ability to put together found information to an accurate world model and LLMs is a tool just like any other.

The real issues imo are effects on society be it information manipulation, breaking our education and workforce systems. But all of that is overshadowed by meme issues like energy use or inaccuracy as these are easy to understand for any person while sociology, politics and macro economics are really hard.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 days ago (13 children)

That's because it IS an issue, together with many other issues like disinformation, over reliance, wrong tools for wrong (most) jobs, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

lemmy is just gobbling it up every day. It's so tiring.

Are you fucking serious? All I ever see on Lemmy is prople saying "AI slop" over and over and over and over again... in like every comment section of every post. It could be a picture that was actually hand-drawn, or a photograph that was definitely not AI, or articles written by someone "sounding like AI". The AI hate on Lemmy is WAY overpowering any support.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think you misunderstood me here as we're in agreement already

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (10 children)

Solar powered server farms in space. Self-powered, self-cooling, 'outside the environment'. Is this a stupid idea?

Edit: So it would seem the answer is yes. Good chat :) Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago

Launch cost is astronomical.

Maintenance access is horrible.

Temperature delta is insane, upto 250C.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don’t understand the self-cooling. Isn’t it harder to keep things cool in space since there is no conduction or convection cooling? I mean everything is in a vacuum. The only place for heat to go is radiative and that’s terribly inefficient. Seems like a massive engineering problem.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It is, infrared radiators weight a shit ton and are inefficient, big and unwieldy. Still the only viable option for cooling in space. AI would take an hugemongous square footage of it just so the GPUs won't melt.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You can cool servers way better on Earth than you can in space. Down here you can transfer heat away from the server with conduction and convection, but in space you really only have radiation. Cooling spacecraft is an engineering challenge. One might imagine a server stuck inside a glass thermos that's sitting out in the sun.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

If the end goal is so little Timmy can ask a robot if nazis exist and it spits out misinformation or so Ai bots can flood social media with endless regurgitated bullshit, then no, it's just more garbage in space.

Ai is interesting,... necessary? A lot of people can be fed and housed for the cost of giant, experimental solar powered Ai computers in space so that they have more excuses not to pay people a living wage.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

Afaik space isn't self cooling. Overheating of spacecraft is a thing. I think they can only cool through infrared radiation or something.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

very stupid. One of the most difficult things in space is cooling stuff. Sending up a bunch of space heaters in a box (almost all of the energy pumped into a computer is turned into heat. The actual computatiion takes next to nothing in comparison) is definitely not a good idea. Definitely not one thought up by a technical person.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

also, you can make computers much more cheap and reliable, more maintainable and much much faster, if you protect them from space radiation by operating them down here, under the protection of earth's atmosphere.

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