I think it's super weird that some people have a r/Lemmy to discuss Lemmy drama and tech support Lemmy questions on Reddit (with very low engagement), some people do a tumblr and some do YouTube videos to gather evidence and expose certain users. That's just wild.
this post was submitted on 19 May 2025
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OP's referring to this and modlogs say it's their alt. I read OP's post multiple times and from what I gather, OP is boasting about getting other people's threads removed out of spite for the Fediverse because they got banned from the lemmy.ca instance on their Call Me Leni account.
I'm not seeing any post or comment removals in that modlog other than the usual stuff and things due to other specific reasons. It doesn't seem to be connected to what OP is referring to. At least I can't see it. Also I'm not sure about that being another alt account. ~~Maybe true, IDK.~~ The writing style isn't the same. ~~If it's one of the alts, that's done well.~~
Sorry if I was unclear, I was referring to OP mentioning that Leni had been banned from Fedilore's instance, which is lemmy.ca. Modlog shows that Leni had been banned from lemmy.ca (Fedilore's instance) for being a KiwiFarms user. OP had been inactive for 3 months until the same day Leni got banned from lemmy.ca, in which this was their first post after 3 months: How many instances have you been banned from?
In that post OP asserts in the comments that Leni was banned from several instances for being autistic. Leni was not banned for being autistic. Leni banned themselves from their own community using their ShiverMeTimbers alt for reasons relating to autism to try and discredit the existing modlogs: https://lemmy.ca/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&modId=14969838
Sure, I think that's undisputed. (And not really news to me.) 😅
If it's not proven, and both sides say something different, by definition, is it not disputed?
Sure. I was a bit sloppy phrasing this. I meant it's undisputed that these allegations exist and the ban happened. Not whether they're true or not. That kind of information isn't contained in the modlog, nor do I have the means to research this. I meant pointing me at the modlog doesn't really help, since that's not the disputed information.
Those mods (and admins) could ban you too, especially considering you are mass-downvoting people via alts. An admin had to point it out to you. I was inactive because I forgot I existed, and I copied that question from someone on Reddit. It has nothing to do with someone else's ban (the dates don't even line up).
There's nothing that says what ShiverMeTimbers isn't true. Why would you claim to speak for anyone if ShiverMeTimbers cannot? Lemmy did shut down an all-autism instance. This was before your time as it was before the time of all the trolls roaming around. It's a sour point for many. Did either of them sign up for KiwiFarms for protective or sadistic purposes? Who knows. I do see indication Leni is being protective of KiwiFarms victims on there (which I assume puts her on the line).
Nothing in the modlogs says that Leni was banned for being autistic, the sole exception being Leni banning themselves on their ShiverMeTimbers alt, where they used autism in the reason box as an attempt to discredit the existing modlogs.
Did either of them sign up for KiwiFarms for protective or sadistic purposes?
Users have to agree to a security question that includes slurs against marginalised demographics before they can sign up on KiwiFarms. The site makes no effort to hide what it's goal is. Leni referred to people on there as "lolcows". They also said that someone dislikes the site because they're probably from two demographics who see themselves at odds with it, which was very obviously referring to both autistic and transgender people, since those are the people the site targets the most.
You keep talking about autism, but all I see is a URL linking to an article. It looks like the person who banned her is using it as a cue. The modlogs have been wrong before, with or without Leni or the people who everyone claims are her alts.
Users have to agree to a security question that includes slurs against marginalised demographics before they can sign up on KiwiFarms. The site makes no effort to hide what it’s goal is.
Alright, first off, how would you know this if you are banned from KiwiFarms on account of being English? You strike me as a liar now. Considering you're the one here who actually acts like they would be on KiwiFarms, including with downvoting people using alts, I am beginning to have suspicions about you.
Second, I opened up the page for it out of curiosity. At least on my device, what you describe isn't there.
Third, "lolcow" isn't always a slur. It comes from "lol" and "cow", and combined, it makes a word that means "someone you can depend on to be humorous". The "cow" part refers to "milking" as a metaphor. The word "lolcow" is used as a part of the rules of Anonymous.
You have claimed before you are a part of Anonymous while not being on KiwiFarms but just now proved the reverse is true.
I've never been a KiwiFarms user. I know what I know about the site from reading up on it, after the suicide of Near/Byuu, whose death was directly caused through harassment from KiwiFarms. The fact you jumped straight to me being a liar rather than considering this is making me think you didn't create this thread to have a honest discussion with others.
You have claimed before you are a part of Anonymous
I've never claimed this either.
Please don't put words in my mouth.
The modlogs have been wrong before
One or two mods, sure, I could believe it. But we aren't talking about just one or two mods, we're talking dozens of different mod and admins banning Leni, all on different instances. As an example, the modlogs aren't wrong about Leni's Nazi apologia since they commented 50+ times in this thread, defending both the AfD and Elon's Nazi salutes.
By banned, I meant that you cannot access the site due to claiming to live in the UK. Criticize the website if you want, I am just stating my observations. They contradict you.
There are no contradictions. People can know about how KiwiFarms operates without being a user on it.
That doesn't mean what people say cannot contradict with what people can see with their own eyes.
Where did I contradict myself?
You are trying to speak for what people see when they register. I am looking right at it, it's not there.
Keep in mind as a side note that the R word is not a slur in most countries, and that many of the slurs some people do say on there are reclaimed.
You are trying to speak for what people see when they register. I am looking right at it, it’s not there.
I trust what I've read about the site, including what I've read on RationalWiki. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms
Most "cows" are described as what are known as "exceptional individuals", coined after a post filter was installed to replace the word "r----s". On its now-banned Twitter account, Kiwi Farms described its purpose as "gossip and exploitation of the mentally handicapped for amusement purposes".[17] Furthermore, the sign-up page for the site once came with a disclaimer saying "autistics will be laughed at. T----s will be misgendered. People will try to find where you live."[18] Due to its offensive content, Kiwi Farms is arguably a hate speech website.
Keep in mind as a side note that the R word is not a slur in most countries
Conversion "therapy" isn't considered bad in most countries either. Defending slurs is not a good look.
I trust what I’ve read about the site, including what I’ve read on RationalWiki.
So you'd willfully rather trust second-hand information (possibly from an old source) over second-hand information from someone you are talking to right now and even first-hand information? And from RationalWiki, a website with notoriety for biased interpretation?
Conversion “therapy” isn’t considered bad in most countries either. Defending slurs is not a good look.
What are you getting at? Conversion therapy is banned in most countries. I don't make the rules, I'm just telling you most countries don't consider it a slur (why then randomly bring up conversion therapy, something that is definitely banned and definitely has a reason to). That's just not a good argument.
I'm going to trust reliable sources. I'd rather trust those than someone who the modlogs say is an alt of a KiwiFarms member, since KiwiFarms members are known for not being the most honest people around.
Conversion therapy is banned in most countries.
It's only banned in a handful of countries, actually.
I’m just telling you most countries don’t consider it a slur
That is no justification for using slurs.
reliable
Uh huh. Right.
Funnily enough, Rational Wiki doesn't have many good things to say about Lemmy in general, including that it's not always trustworthy when conflict arises. Would you risk half of the things you've said so far here to die on the hill that it's a reliable source?
Also, I meant most civilized countries, the ones willing to place such laws. And go ahead and try convincing a country that slurs are never okay when that country doesn't believe in those slurs in the first place.
Yes, that's right. Most other sites are much more reliable than KiwiFarms and its userbase are. I'm glad we've come to an agreement on this.
I was talking about RationalWiki, not KiwiFarms. You are quoting RationalWiki claiming they're quoting KiwiFarms. This is a strawman.
As for the conversion therapy part, I meant most civilized countries, the ones willing to place such laws. Try convincing a country that slurs are never okay when that country doesn’t believe in those slurs in the first place. It doesn't usually work.
You said "most countries" with no mention of perceived civility.
KiwiFarms is a site that was created for hate speech. It is an extremist site by design. The userbase and the owner of a hate speech site are going to be maliciously biased for it.
So is RationalWiki.
I would say this about all platforms. If you want to see what a platform says, ask the platform.
The platform, at this moment, does not say what you claim it says. That is my point with that. It's not up for argument when anyone can see for themselves.
Show me your source for your new claim now.
It isn't true. I'm yet another person mistaken for them, right after it happened to one of the other Ask Lemmy mods (go ask mod Candyman337, he will tell you about this).
You claimed in this comment that Leni was banned from multiple instances for being autistic, which I have proven to be a lie here. I don't understand why you would lie about this. If you're interested in a honest discussion here, I strongly advise you to not make claims which can easily be proven to be false.
Leni was banned from multiple instances for being a KiwiFarms user with a history of abusing people, bigotry, and Nazi apologia.
Saying something is true doesn't make it true.
True, that's why on Lemmy, users can't as easily lie about the reason they're banned as they can on other sites. It's also possible to see which mod banned whom.
Hence why you keep editing your comments to make it seem like we're talking about something we're not? On top of putting words in peoples' mouths, as I was referring to you claiming I did anything like that (or that any of those people are me, that what you showed resembles proof, or that you speak for anyone here).
I edited my comment to include "It’s also possible to see which mod banned whom.".
Maybe don't edit comments. You definitely come across as someone who is doing this to be hostile and make a show out of it. Editing all your comments to include more and more is the Lemmy equivalent of a child crying as soon as the mother enters the room because the child wants to look like something is wrong.
Yeah, since you're responding here, that's enough for me. I don't need to ask anyone else. I already said I doubt it's the same person due to the writing style. I retract the unfounded scepticism concerning that user account.
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Yeah, this is the same person behind the shinigami and ShiverMeTimbers accounts. They love to schizopost.
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Sure, having alt accounts and speaking of oneself in the third person isn't unheard of.
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children. bunch of immature children.
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