how is it the world's first when there are several ISPs that have been offering 10g fiber for the past year
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Past year? Iint7 (Switzerland) has been offering symmetric 10Gb to home users for almost a decade and their flagship home package has been 25Gbps for a few years now. Multiple ISPs in the UK have offered symmetric 10Gb for 6-7 years, ditto some American and Singaporean ISPs. I've had 10Gb on tap for years now. Funny how this clickbait untruthful article also slips in that the product isn't even symmetric, having a 10:1 down/up ratio. The 10Gb from my own ISP is being upgraded to symmetric 50Gbps later this year.
god when will i get fiber??
Its the worlds first in China*
Cause china ...and we're on lemmy ...so yea
Another article is also at the top about bird drones that are going to turn the drone world on its head.
No. It's because it's cellular 10G. The article is terrible though
Ah, that makes it interesting. Since the article didn't state this... I'm still calling it lemmy upvote cause China.
But thats cool though, wonder what the range is on this.
I have no idea, they're saying they're basing the deployment on Huawei 50G networks, sooo I think this is either the author who didn't understand the assignment or a terrible translation?
Edit: well it seems like it's 10G as in cellular. Every article is absolutely trash so I searched in Chinese and found this article (translated) which compares it to 5G and mentions the use of new wavelengths to transmit the data
Edit2: here is the full translated article since the linked translation doesn't seem to work anymore
Chinese telecom giants Huawei and China Unicom announced the launch of the first 10G network worldwide, with download speeds of 9,834 megabits per second and upload speeds of 1,008 megabits per second. At the same time, the delay is only three milliseconds, which makes the network one of the fastest and most advanced networks in the world. 10G is coming, and the world is still catching up with 5G.
When most countries around the world were still worried about the coverage of 5G base stations, China had already taken the lead in opening the door to the 10G era. What does a download speed of 9.8Gbps mean? A 20GB 4K movie can be finished in 20 seconds. This kind of overwhelming advantage is like driving a J-20 to see others playing with paper airplanes. A delay of three milliseconds rewrites the rules of the game
E-sports players should applaud wildly at this moment-the delay of 3ms is faster than the speed of human neural response. Areas that require zero error, such as remote surgery and autonomous driving, are finally waiting for their "oxygen". Ericsson's best 5G record tested last year was 8ms, and China directly inserted the benchmark to the top of Mount Everest. Huawei's millimeter wave black technology can't hide it. The key to this breakthrough lies in the application of the 26GHz millimeter wave band. Just like expanding a single lane to ten lanes, Huawei's AAU (active antenna unit) technology has greatly improved signal transmission efficiency. The U.S. FCC will not auction this part of the spectrum until 2022, and the technological gap is already clear at a glance.
Don't rush to change your mobile phone. The 10G ecosystem has just started. Don't rush to smash the 5G mobile phone in your hand. At present, the terminal equipment that supports 10G has not yet been mass-produced. Just like in the early days of 5G commercial use, no matter how fast the network ran, it had to wait for the terminal to keep up. However, according to the iteration speed of Chinese manufacturers, this transition period is probably shorter than the popularity of net celebrities.
The true portrayal from following the race to leading the way. In 2016, China's 5G patents accounted for less than 20%, and China accounted for 40.3% of global 6G patent applications in 2023. This time the 10G commercial is like a beautiful shot back, making the narrative of "technological hegemony" more and more like a fantasy of self-comfort.
Yeah, it doesn't make sense because even in the article it talks about other nations already having it and china trying to rollout faster.
I’ve been able to get 8GBps fibre home internet for the last 5 years in rural Canada. I doubt this is the first 10GBps commercial broadband network.
This is cellular though
I'm paying 160$cad for 300mbps, regular GPON service in rural :(
Fibre access is not evenly distributed, some places only have satellite access as an option. Meanwhile Rogers just ran fibre down our road so now we have the option to use Bell or Rogers.
And I'm still on DSL, no more than 10 Mbps... Fuck us rural people, right?
You need to look into LTE and 5G modems
Nobody gives us service out here, I've checked with Verizon, TMobile, and AT&T. Best I have is my cellphone, which I can use as a hotspot, and it's typically only on 4G/LTE. I've gotten 5G connections a few times, but rarely.
It took me 2 days to download a 90 GB game, and I can't play anything online because the connection will just drop.
If you get 4G on your phone, then build a LTE modem and use it, you can use 2x2 or 4x4 antennas as well and increase the signal significantly.
Go here, get a 4G modem for cheap. 5G if you want to try your hand on it. But a 4G modem should get you much much better signal than your phone. Then go get a plan, use this site.
https://cellularinternet.info/
Lot of people use this plan if you have ATT
https://cellularinternet.info/tabletplan
Which ever provider you're phone is getting the best signal on, go with them.
Seriously, at my old farm I had 4g and was doing 30mbs down and 5 up and none of our phones had service. Once I put in the mimo antenna I had Internet. I still use a mobley plan at my new place, thankfully fiber is finally gonna be here soon.
But don't deal with not having access. Seriously 4g is prevalent enough in the usa that you shouldn't be without it now.
Also ignore all the idiots who say this can't be done on a phone plan. It %100 can, and if you're rural enough, more than likely very few people will be connecting to your tower and you will not see deprioritizing.
If you need help, let me know and I'll get you setup. I dealt with this crap for years until I figured it all out.
Fun fact: If I use my 4G with a device that isn't a phone, that's against the terms of service and they can cut my access.
Yea sure. They also took nearly a trillion dollars from us tax payers for a nationwide build out of Internet...took the money then said dialup is good enough.
They can fuck right off.
As much as I hate to say it, because Fuck Musk, Starlink really is as good as they say in rural areas like yours. FiL has had it since the early beta and it was transformative for him. Streaming is now as good as wired broadband and “no lag” video calls are as well. It drops out very 20 min or so for a minute since the constellation isn’t complete yet but that has been getting better year over year.
Again, Musk is a massive choad, but this is the only decent option for people without anything good.
I'm in Central Wyoming and could call my ISP right now to order a 10Gbs upgrade. My 2Gbs is plenty fast enough though.
This is 10G cellular
Then why does the whole article talk about PON and fiber?
ngl I'd like to know how this article was written -- and the dozens of similar articles I could find around.
It's terrible, and the few details given are misleading. Here is a post (translated from the original) I found on chinese internet (Baidu) talking about the topic.
Chinese telecom giants Huawei and China Unicom announced the launch of the first 10G network worldwide, with download speeds of 9,834 megabits per second and upload speeds of 1,008 megabits per second. At the same time, the delay is only three milliseconds, which makes the network one of the fastest and most advanced networks in the world. 10G is coming, and the world is still catching up with 5G.
When most countries around the world were still worried about the coverage of 5G base stations, China had already taken the lead in opening the door to the 10G era. What does a download speed of 9.8Gbps mean? A 20GB 4K movie can be finished in 20 seconds. This kind of overwhelming advantage is like driving a J-20 to see others playing with paper airplanes. A delay of three milliseconds rewrites the rules of the game
E-sports players should applaud wildly at this moment-the delay of 3ms is faster than the speed of human neural response. Areas that require zero error, such as remote surgery and autonomous driving, are finally waiting for their "oxygen". Ericsson's best 5G record tested last year was 8ms, and China directly inserted the benchmark to the top of Mount Everest. Huawei's millimeter wave black technology can't hide it. The key to this breakthrough lies in the application of the 26GHz millimeter wave band. Just like expanding a single lane to ten lanes, Huawei's AAU (active antenna unit) technology has greatly improved signal transmission efficiency. The U.S. FCC will not auction this part of the spectrum until 2022, and the technological gap is already clear at a glance.
Don't rush to change your mobile phone. The 10G ecosystem has just started. Don't rush to smash the 5G mobile phone in your hand. At present, the terminal equipment that supports 10G has not yet been mass-produced. Just like in the early days of 5G commercial use, no matter how fast the network ran, it had to wait for the terminal to keep up. However, according to the iteration speed of Chinese manufacturers, this transition period is probably shorter than the popularity of net celebrities.
The true portrayal from following the race to leading the way. In 2016, China's 5G patents accounted for less than 20%, and China accounted for 40.3% of global 6G patent applications in 2023. This time the 10G commercial is like a beautiful shot back, making the narrative of "technological hegemony" more and more like a fantasy of self-comfort.
Shit, my 450/450 dedicated is good enough for a family of 5 with data hungry kids. I’ve also had a similar experience on 500/500 shared. Fiber of course. Screw cable.
The lack of down/up symmetry (at at 10:1 ratio, no less) is rather gobsmacking in 2025. Even here in SV, where internet service has historically lagged behind the rest of the world, I now have 5 gigabits of symmetric fiber service for a reasonable price.
South Vietnam?
Heh, no, Silicon Valley. Rather surprisingly, internet service was awful here for many years.
This (asymetric bandwidth) and breaking inbound ports and breaking multicast is how they can sell you solution to fill the gap.
In other words, offering tiers of service which are symmetric or close the gap? For what it's worth, I seem to be a poor technologist, since 5 gigabits/sec is vastly more than I need, but my ISP keeps encouraging me to upgrade to 7 gigabits. It's nice to know that I could run a skyscraper or a medium sized subdivision if I wanted to, however!
These guys are doing like the Americans with first flight, first phone call, first recorded conversation, first anything.
At the moment I'm happy with my old school 600Mb conection
The best I can do for the price and consistency is Verizon 5G home internet and it’ll fluctuate between 80Mbps and 300Mbps down. Upload at best 30Mbps. Not lucky to live in a fiber neighborhood. All the cable providers are worse than 5G alternatives though I’m certain the 5G services will get worse with age
Cry's in 100/20Mb
Awesome, that cuts the Steam update time till I can game down to under half an hour!
The only reason to have such fast internet at home is for torrents. Nothing else will saturate 10G, even with several people using it.
I WFH for a company where we're regularly moving files and packages in the 100s of GBs. I'm already on 2.5Gb and and I still ahev to wait 10-20 minutes at times. I also share a connection with my wife who is a CAD designer and 3D Space modeler for an architect who also works from home who also has similar upload & download times for some of her work.
That's just us. There's plenty of other professionals out there that work with large files between teams either as a job or hobby from home.
10Gb has a market for home users. It may be limited at this time, but it's there.
Sometimes the reason there is no use for it is because the data was unavailable. With larger data throughput, more and better services may become available.
Even when you consider common stuff like gaming, it often takes a while to fully download or update games.
It's not even for the home lol, this is cellular. and yeah I cant find a reason for it, one of the reasons mentioned is medical procedures as the network only adds a 3ms delay
My ssd on its own is way faster than that, and I have four of them.
I swear I thought korea had this.
Even the US has this in places. Definitely not a first in the word situation other than what China tells its citizens.
yeah it made me sort unconfident but like I thought korea had it back quite a ways. like significantly before covid.
This is cellular
oh. ok that makes sense then.
It’s so fast, that nobody can afford it. If more than five people have it, it’s because they are the billionaires that owned the network.
That’s why it’s so amazing, you won’t have it for 20 years.
You really don't need to be a billionaire to afford crazy internet speeds (if you want them). You can get a 100G port from pretty much any ISP for ~$8k/mo, or even cheaper if you are willing to have a bandwidth cap. Then assuming you really want it, you'd have to pay to get the fiber laid to your home, which can be a few hundred thousand dollars depending on how far away you are. Of course this is ridiculous for home internet, but it is within reach for people that are way poorer then billionaires.
That cable/wiring setup is going to be expensive
It's cellular
Oh wow!! Now that's impressive