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[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

A bit of topic, but it pains me to see how powerful high end phones got. Like most people just use them to text and scroll social media. Why do people spend that much money?!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

If anything, it makes me wonder why we don't have more small dedicated handheld gaming devices that aren't phones or pseudocomputers and don't cost a bomb.

Like a £220 PSP/GBA/DS-like device with decent first-party support would be really nice for me imo

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The Switch Lite is exactly this. $200 handheld that runs first party games. There are android handhelds like the Retroid pocket 5 as well.

A Steam Deck Lite would be incredible. Small, cheap, linux-based, and powerful enough to run indie games and some light 3D. I think that form factor basically needs an arm cpu though.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You can buy handhelds for like $100 that have basically every console game up to and including ps2/ds preloaded. What else would you need?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or just use a phone that's a couple years old

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, I got an S23 for $400, upgraded from a 7 year old S9

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

There are plenty handhelds in all shapes and sizes in that price range for exactly this. How many more do we need?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The big benefit is that much horsepower allows the phone to very very rapidly "race to sleep" in that the faster it can crunch the numbers then return to a much slower clock the less power it'll consume overall

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Especially as the phone gets older and apps get more complex.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There are real video games for phones now, and I'm pretty sure emulation is up to at least on the gamecube era. Slap a controller on it and a phone is pretty much just a hyper-powered gameboy advance.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

I can totally emulate PS2 and some Switch games on my phone, but never really use the power

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

theres also isnt much difference, so the higher end , aka flagship ones are slightly better than the previous editions. no need to spend 800-1k+, i bought a OPR12 instead. pixels tries to justify thier flagship prices with thier useless AI chips.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yea, I got the op 12 because it was just $50 more than the r on Amazon at the time.

It's definitely powerful enough but I'm slightly disappointed by the software, arcore is just completely broken, and hdr is fairly spotty (works in yt app and photos app but doesn't work in chrome or Google photos)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the op12 has higher memory capacity storage, and beter telephoto lens, i dont really like the curved screen though, other than that its good. i think 13 or mostly got rid of that curved screen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, it's probably not something I would have chosen if I had the option but I don't really care about the curved screen.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I ended up buying a cheap controller that clamps to my phone and run emulators. It works way better than I ever expected.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I know but I don't want to use my phone as a gaming device. The retroid pocket 5 could be the one for me

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I keep my phones for 6-8 years. I’m in my 40s and have only ever bought 3 phones, going back to the iPhone 2 3g

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Just say you've never cracked a screen, everyone and their brother will be wet

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I should watch Archer again

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I would be too. You know they’re repairable right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I did assume a thing or two I guess lol. I got a refurb when it was cheaper than a fix. Wonder if that counts as a "new" phone... Theseus would probably like to have a word.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Apps by corporations are stuffed with ads, telemetry and other crap. It uses frameworks on top of other frameworks and import libraries for the dumbest shit. For example the reddit app is about 120mb while my lemmy voyager app is 8mb...

The twitch.tv app is 150mb while an open source twitch app is 25mb. It has even more functionality and options and runs like butter.

Most of the shit phones have to run and process is in the background to track and sell.

Its really bad and why i encourage people to use open source versions of stuff they use.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Who doesn't want to spend £50+ a month to doom scroll...

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I pay like $15/month to doom scroll.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

people that just buy the phone instead of getting a weird contract thingy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Genshin Impact does make my phone toasty.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Around the same as the Steam Deck when portable, but with access to significantly better upscaling.

Such a shame FSR looks so terrible, the Steam Deck would otherwise hold up much better against it.

I'm still not going to buy one and only use my Deck though.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So there really is no excuse for the new Pokemon games to look so terrible.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There never was a good excuse other than greed and the fact that everyone keeps blindly throwing their money at them anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As a [email protected] fan I didn't buy for these reasons but that doesn't stop hordes of parents or certain fans from buying anyways. If they're happy, I guess… meanwhile I'll be fine as long as they don't go after ROM hacks.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Rom hacks can be so good, but why can't we move past hm's??

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

From what I've heard a lot of the same og programmers and animators from the game boy days are still in charge of making the games and they don't want a large team. They also don't want to have to work really hard or learn new skills, so basically all the work falls to inexperienced people being led by people with incredibly dated skills. Nintendo still rakes in tons of money so they don't see the need to interject.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

People who buy a Switch 2 are not the same people who care about this stuff.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The majority perhaps, but there's still folks who are interested in the tech side of things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Ok yeah that's fair. Most people.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Still the best engineered bang for your Buck/power draw card ever created in my eyes. Power draw of a lightbulb and I put it side by side with my freinds Xbox one at release and beat its performance.

I wish companies stayed on that track.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I wish companies stayed on that track.

Welcome to a world of 1000W PSUs :(

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It’s like we’re returning to the early 00s lol. I used to rock a 450w psu in my 750ti build. :( granted I use a 650w today but my rx580 SND Ryzen 5 1500x is getting dated when it comes to new releases.

This is the first year I really don’t meeet requirements. Don’t know what to do with this market lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

The pc market has taken a very consumerist turn and it's actually pretty disgusting. Sad times.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm in the same boat, haven't really found anything good to upgrade to that doesn't cost me a kidney.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

1000W does sound big enough for a 5090, but what about the other computer components?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yup, that's what I'm using in my NAS for basic transcoding. Works great!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

I love how my boy 750ti is in there. My first real gpu and my favorite because it was a time when NVIDIA was showing interest in getting the most bang out of lower power draw. That went out the window

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Obligatory fuck Nintendo, and shame anyone buying their stuff anymore.

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