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Back in the day I just assumed everyone was lying. Or trying to get people worked up, and we called them trolls.
Learning how to ignore the trolls, and not having trust for strangers on the internet, coupled with the ability to basically not care what random people said is a lost art.
Somehow people forgot to give other the people this memo, including the "you don't fucking join social networks as your self". Anonymity makes this all work.
Eternal September newbies just didn't get it.
One of the differences these days is that marginalized groups are having their existences threatened… and not hollow threats, but meaningful ones that have had, and continue to have, very real consequences in the form of policies, hate crimes, etc.
That is legitimate, very real violence, and it results in very understandable hostility. And then those perpetuating, supporting, and celebrating the violence pretend they are victims when people treat them like the orcs they are.
“Why are you being so divisive?” “You’re not very TOLERANT of different opinions, are you?” “Why are you so angry all the time, snowflakes?”
Violent bullies need to be put in their place, and with more than just “hostility on the internet”.
People who enploy hate speech need to have their access to internet revoked, I feel. Though I wonder if that won't open up all sorts of nasty backdoors...
Hear, hear! I miss the days when trolling used to mean piss take. If someone is trolling, troll them back!
Somehow people forgot to give other the people this memo, including the "you don't fucking join social networks as your self". Anonymity makes this all work.
I do get into political debates, but I don't overshare my real info and I certainly don't ban anyone for disagreeing with me. I find it cringe if anyone bans someone for disagreement to maintain "mental health". Unless someone is stalking or making a calculated harrasment on the person online, sure ban or report the troll, but banning someone because the person does not have a good response shows pettiness and immaturity.
Yeah the block and ban thing these days is really weird.
If someone is harassing you, then I guess it makes sense. But otherwise why do people do that?
No I just hate you all equally
Man, this is sacred. This should be the first line in Intro to Internet.
Always have, always will.
Who the fuck says I'm hostile ? Fuck you
No, we're just done with things like the orange man nazis, advertising, paywalls, borders, illegal for thee but not for me billionaires.
Bit once that's fixed we'll go back to clicking on links to help prince Abu Abowah of Nigeria to settle his bank account once and for all.
There is no engagement mechanism like rage
yea, f_ck' em
It depends on what communities you subscribe to. You’re not going to get much hostility in a gardening sub, but you will get it in political sub. With that said, my reddit score is very polite. Always has been. My secret is being aware of my emotions and not responding when I’m being egged.
Did you even check to see if that ivy you planted is invasive? You're probably ruining your local ecosystem you piece of shit.
Also what kind of basic bitch plants basic Roma tomatoes? Garbage choice, when Purple Cherokee are so much better.
Rofl
This fits with our understanding of personality disorders, which is that they are a small percentage of our society—around 10.5 percent, according to the recent DSM-5-TR.3
Idk, I consider 10% to be pretty high. If you add in selection bias, you could get an actual majority in a community having personality disorders just because the non-jerks largely self-select themselves out.
That said, I still think the conclusions here shouldn't be taken at face value. The data was from surveys, and while I haven't read their methodology, I would certainly hesitate to accept results of a survey for something like this (and for <10k responses). I personally find I'm more confrontational online, though I hope I'm generally still way more respectful than your common jerk.
The results are certainly interesting though.
I go more for 'tiresomely cynical', but whatever.
IMO online commenters are increasingly showing pathological binary thinking - the attitude that there are exactly two sides to every issue - the Right one and the Wrong one. Questioning ANY aspect of the Right one means you're obviously a hardcore supporter of EVERY aspect of the Wrong one. You're either morally and ethically pure or your character is a wretched hive of scum and villainy. To me it's a really paradoxical way of thinking about diversity and acceptance - more like we're supposed to either wholeheartedly embrace people or despise them.
It's not new, it happened a lot on Reddit, and I get a bit of that in real life too.
People are tribalist, and that sucks.
For example, if you read Lemmy comments without any real world experience, you'd think everyone who voted for Trump hates brown people and wants poor people to die. But I have family and close friends who voted for that douchebag, and they are good people, they just thought he's a better option (and they generally don't follow politics too much). And I don't blame them, Harris had a crappy campaign, basically promising the same bad policies Biden had, and Clinton before her was worse. Why should they be interested in politics if we keep getting poor options?
People aren't black and white. Yet we caricaturize them as such.
Some of the earliest websites were shock sites full of gore and horrific porn. The rest were just regular porn and chatroom degeneracy incubators. The internet was a hostile entity from the outset.
fuck no we aren't.
anyone who says otherwise can fight me.
And I'm pissed that you got to this comment first!
Yeah fuck that person
They both seem like assholes to me 🤷♂️
Pot and the kettle much?
You know what they say, if you find that you're always surrounded by assholes.... you're probably the asshole.....
Both sides are the same. Fight me on it
I am hostile to those that relish in cruelty to others. To those that engage in cringe culture, or bully others for just wanting to live their lives without harming anyone.
I'll accept people getting heated and passionate, but I will never accept cruelty, or worse: self-righteous cruelty. Believing someone needs to be 'punished' for some slight and so anything is justified against them.
Basically KiwiFarms and the whole lolcow industrial complex can go fuck themselves.
IMO, the reason is because scientists haven't found a way to punch someone in their face over the internet yet.
They send SWAT teams to their houses, which is pretty close.
It doesn't quite have the same satisfying crunch though...
I've long thought that phones needed a taze button. Every telephone in the world should have the power to deliver a high power electric shock to the user, and the phone network should only allow the callee to taze the caller. So if you call someone, the person you have called can taze you.
I don't see any problem with the telephone network that can't be solved by putting a 30,000 volt potential across the caller's jaw. Make it work on call bots too, if a computer automatically calls you and you don't want it to, put Shearon Harris on the line. Modern problems require 2nd Amendment solutions, and if you elect me as your president in 2028 it is these policies that I shall energetically enact.
Here's the thing.
The last 10 years have proven that organized online hostility is VERY EFFECTIVE at dictating public opinion.
That's how we got the new fascist movements. Trump and the like. Because right wing hostility and bigotry went not only unchecked institutionally but unchallenged socially.
No solution has emerged for that from an institutional level.
So yeah, my socialist ass is fighting back. I'll be damned if I'm going to spend the rest of my life under these fucking wastes of flesh and their bullshit antiquated opinions. I'm done taking it and I'm done tolerating it. Fuck every last republican and homophobe and transphobe and complicit liberal. All of them. And wouldn't you know it, little by little they're backing down when we stand up to them like the cowards they are.
Yes, I am deliberately far more hostile online, because it WORKS. And clearly nobody with institutional control cares enough to try anything else.
No, fuck off, how very dare you suggest such a thing you horrid bastard you, just you wait, I’m going to punch you in the elbow and knock over your second-favourite house plant for insinuating such lies
