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[–] [email protected] 127 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Alright, trying an ELI5 here.


Big internet platforms like YouTube, Instagram etc. will get new rules in the EU

  • Less relevant/targeted ads for minors
  • Ads are not allowed to target you based on your gender, ethnicity etc.
  • More transparency and more control over which content will get shown to you
  • Big internet companies can get sued for the content users upload
  • They will implement reporting and delting tools to not get sued
  • Maybe we'll see some upload filters
  • Instagram will give you a chronological feed
  • TikTok will give you some trending stuff within your region
  • EU only
[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Big internet companies can get sued for the content users upload

I've got a bad feeling about this.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I suspect they just can’t be willfully negligent. Right now Facebook could actively promote a genocide and not see any consequences.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Right now Facebook could actively promote a genocide and not see any consequences.

Rohingya says what

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup. I was up for it until that point. That bullet is a terrible idea.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

Eh, there's more nuance to it than implied in the TLDR

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

You should, this is really bad. These laws are all so backwards. That's like suing the postal service because of people putting illegal stuff in the mail. Or phone companies for streaming copyrighted material because a song was playing in the background.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looking forward to seeing ads for bras... :)

Just kidding. I don't see ads anyway.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You'll never get the support you need with that attitude!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

More transparency and more control over which content will get shown to you

So I can block all the "this changes everything", "incredible thing you did not know", "mind blowing details about game x" videos from youtube? When I load Youtube I always scroll down on the main page and click don't recommend this channel on all videos that have titles like that or thumbnails with arrows, red circles or other crap thumbnails. Don't care what channel it is.

[–] Klaymore 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can try the Dearrow extension, which uses a random or community-suggested frame from the video as the thumbnail. Made by the same person who made SponsorBlock. It can also use community-suggested titles for videos as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Great idea, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you browse your subscribed channels?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nope, I am mainly subscribed to business channels, like news and other stuff. I don't really follow youtubers, I think I have around 3-4.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's also some stuff about interoperability which is partly why threads were making noises about the fediverse.

The requirement for reporting and blocking tools presents a problem for X, which has just removed those. Although it wouldn't surprise me to see Musk just pull out of the non-US market altogether . He's trying to turn it into a payment platform and doing that in every country simultaneously would be impossible.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

There’s also some stuff about interoperability which is partly why threads were making noises about the fediverse.

That's the Digital Markets Act.

Don't know why there are two acts that sound so similar and have similar goals. It's confusing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personal tl;dr:

  • Affects only large platforms for now
  • Selling illegal goods is not allowed and there must be a way to report that content
  • Ad targeting based on sexuality, religion, ethnicity or political beliefs is not allowed
  • Targeting ads on children is restricted
  • Transparency on how recommendation algorithms work
  • Option to opt out of recommendation algorithms
  • Requirements for data sharing with researchers and authorities
  • Cooperation with crisis response requirements
  • Requirement for external and independent auditing
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Musk is actively trying to stop data sharing. He threatened to sue a researcher that was using the api to collect data for breach of terms of service.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

...to stop data sharing for AI training (or other purposes) for other people. There is no way I believe Musk wants to stop the collection and use of data, especially since he is trying to make his own AI. Even with the fact he is trying to kill off Twitter at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's the key paragraphs:

online platforms must implement ways to prevent and remove posts containing illegal goods, services, or content while simultaneously giving users the means to report this type of content.

the DSA bans targeted advertising based on a person’s sexual orientation, religion, ethnicity, or political beliefs and puts restrictions on targeting ads to children. It also requires online platforms to provide more transparency on how their algorithms work.

The DSA carves out additional rules for what it considers “very large online platforms,” (over 45 million European users/month) forcing them to give users the right to opt out of recommendation systems and profiling, share key data with researchers and authorities, cooperate with crisis response requirements, and perform external and independent auditing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Bloody brilliant.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is likely why .world initiated some changes over the last week.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Explain this to me in csgo terms.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

CYKA BLYT RUSH B

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Commenting to find this later, can't remember remindmebot command :P

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The app you're using does not let you save comments?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Liftoff should have it and I have been saving posts for later, but I need to check where they are :) plus no reminders

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

@Gsus4 Ok, I will remind you on Tuesday Sep 5, 2023 at 12:19 AM PDT.