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Hopefully people can stop with the "I bet Bethesda will take down skyblivion!1!!" comments now. It's very clear there's good will between modders and the devs.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't get why some people think Skyblivion is some threat to Bethesda Elder Scrolls games at all. Mods are always going to be more niche than fully marketed and funded maintained commercial storefront releases.

Skyblivion is going to be limited to what the latest Skyrim release engine supports while this remaster has Unreal Engine 5 stapled on top as the graphics renderer. They added new voice acting. People are developing mod toolchains for the remaster. It's more substantial than the vast majority of remasters we've seen

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

I don't think many people believe that Bethesda views skyblivion as something that will compete for market share. I think it's more of a surprise to people that in an age where so many major companies are quick to go after modders, Bethesda has not only allowed skyblivion to exist but has also officially acknowledged their work in a positive light.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

God so many people on here act like Todd Howard personally killed their child. It's fucking insufferable. You guys don't crucify other companies like this when it comes to mods. This only happens with Bethesda who is realistically one of the only companies that has supported mods in the mainstream. Games can also be good without mods. Get over yourselves and just enjoy a fucking game.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Shut up I'm entertained seeing all these ignorant people who don't know what they're talking about crying.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

People are complaining because Bethesda didn't launch the game with official mod support. Meaning it doesn't have a "mods" option on the main menu. Bethesda hasn't said they have a problem with mods or will go after anyone that uses them. But everyone is acting like this means Bethesda suddenly hates mods. Skyrim launched without official mod support too, but somehow it managed to be a successful game on top of having a massive modding community. People just want to complain for the sake of complaining.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Bro, literally. Bethesda drops the next-gen update for Fallout 4 right before the show/Fallout: London mod releases, and everyone and their mother believes Bethesda is purposefully sabotaging the FO: Lon team by doing so. Once the dust settles, everyone just goes "oopsie, wasn't me 🤭"

Bethesda "shadow-drops" (there were plenty of leaks and no one seemed to dispute the claims anyway) the release of Oblivion Remastered right when there's a ton of talk about Skyblivion recently being close to completion, and everyone and their mother once again blames Bethesda for purposefully doing so to sabotage yet another huge mod team. When in reality, Bethesda gave copies to each of the team members who are actively working on said project for free as a token of appreciation for being such devoted fans of the IP in the first place.

It's like everyone has these weird "anti-Bethesda" blinders on whenever there's a new thing from them in the news that gathers any bit of hype. Even the Bethesda fanboys are guilty of this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Official Mod support often gets added later, Starfield for example was launched without and it was added later. This is a general trend nowadays, mod support for Baldurs Gate 3 (as an non Bethesda example) was added later too.

I am sure Oblivion Remastered will get mod support, and I would be very surprised if mod support will not also come with Creations integration.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

The vast majority of games don't have official mod support. Fuck them for sometimes officially supporting it, I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The remaster is good. I hope Skyblivion is good. More games for consumers, the better. People here are commenting as if Bethesda has a responsibility to handhold the entire modding community. They are just doing their thing to make some money with employees that want to get paid and also make good games. Bethesda has had some downs but also some ups. This remaster is an up so I enjoy more Elder Scrolls.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

More TES is always a win imo

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have been waiting so many years now for Skyblivion that I am not going to bother with the Remaster. And to be honest, something with the Remaster and UE5 feels off visually.

The Skyblivion Teams attention to detail and love for the project makes me believe that it will also be the superior version of Oblivion.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

We can eat both

[–] Grass 70 points 2 days ago (8 children)
[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 151 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Always be suspicious of corporations.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What is the point of this cynical comment in this context. Everyone is winning here.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

"We beat you to it bitches. And while you've spent 9 years on your labor of love and and made nothing from it, we will make tens of millions. Here's a couple copies of our shittily optimized remaster just to rub it in :)"

Sincerely Todd

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah they spent years working on a remaster just to dunk on a small mod team. Next time, Bethesda should ask for fan's permission to work on the franchise they literally own! ~/s~

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're just playing games within games, people! Trying to delay the release of Skyblivion by getting the devs to start another 200 hour playthrough!

Jokes aside, I hope the remaster is good.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It’s not great. I haven’t run into a single bug yet. How is this even a Bethesda game?

Literally unplayable!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

No bugs? In my bethesda game?

Literally ~~un~~playable!

That's unacceptable!

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 days ago

Still wildly suspicious timing.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They want them to be busy playing this and never finish Skyblivion hahaha

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 days ago (23 children)

I'm suspicious, but overall more relaxed. Only wish other companies would be a gracious

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Why would anyone think that it would be taken down? The one thing Bethesda is good at is encouraging people to mod their games. It's the only reason why I didn't give up on them as a company after those two disasters called Fallout 76 and Starfield. (But to be fair my patience is running thin. ES6 and FO5 both have got to be absolute smash hits.)

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Anyone play Fallout London? I couldn't rollback the pointless update that cockblocked the mod. This time, they just make an attempt to squeeze out money before skyblivion offers the option.

Unless Bethesda actually fully embraces and supports the modding community, I'll never buy another one of their games.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Damn, I didn't realize that you not being able to undo an update that they most likely had planned for at least a year or two to coincide with the release of the Fallout show led to you boycotting all things Bethesda.

I didn't know Todd personally fucked with your rig to force you to live with the next-gen update and not be able to play a mod. I guess he's just going around to everyone's place and making sure they have all their Bethesda games fully up to date so they're mods keep getting fucked with.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago

Save your dialogue for NPCs, maybe they care

[–] farngis_mcgiles 7 points 1 day ago (7 children)

their eula for oblivion remastered forbids modding

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Source? Iirc it just said that modding wasn't supported, not forbidden

[–] farngis_mcgiles 1 points 7 hours ago

https://store.steampowered.com/eula/2623190_eula_0

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