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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is evident from the current top-level comments that more education is needed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

To be fair, these kinds of posts normally don't attract people agreeing with the post to write about why they agree, but people disagreeing and then people countering. This is a very repeatable experience.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unlike all the communist revolutions which succeeded without vanguard party? The grand total of zero of those suggest that not having vanguard party is way worse than just cringe.

[–] explodicle -1 points 1 week ago

This is like defending early flying machines with flapping wings.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

All revolutions will have an advanced, middle, and backwards selection of the population. Whether this advanced section is formalized into a party and thus democratized and organized, or left to form naturally, opaquely, and without accountability, the advanced segment will exist regardless. We can see throughout history that it is far more effective to formalize this segment to make it accountable than to let power structures form based on friendships and cliques.

I recommend reading The Tyranny of Structurelessness. The Vanguard model has consistently been proven to be the most effective means to wage revolution.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

In what way?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Communist revolutions were always done by uneducated peasants

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The peasantry historically plays a significant role, but the Proletariat typically is the most organized, and the Vanguard party is usually quite educated and linked to the masses. The Vanguard the spearhead, the people the mass behind it, only supporting the Vanguard as long as they trust and remain integrated and connected to it.

The fact that the peasantry plays a major part in its own liberation is in no way a bad thing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

And after their revolutions their literacy rate rose pretty well.

Those peasants may have been uneducted, but they were smart.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Again, the support of the women in the russian revolution is simply ignored to simp for some sacred vanguard.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

It's in all the 5 of the ingredients, unless you think there were no women anywhere there.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Women such as Alexandra Kollontai played key roles in the Bolshevik Party, ie the Vanguard.