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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The judge literally said they didn't have the authority to release him:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/us-born-citizen-detained-ice-immigration-florida-rcna201800

"After inspecting his birth certificate, Leon County Judge LaShawn Riggans said during the hearing that “this is indeed an authentic document,” but that she did not have jurisdiction beyond finding no probable cause for the charge."

To which I'd think the correct reply should have been "If you don't have the authority to release him, then what's your authority to detain him?"

Nobody bothered asking that question. "He's a US Citizen, here's his birth certificate, by what authority are you detaining him?"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The issue is that it was a county judge. A county judge doesn't have the authority to overrule ICE even when they are illegally detaining a US citizen under a law that has already been blocked by another judge. Who knew?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

ICE was requesting the judge detain him, which was apparently beyond their authority. The correct answer would have been to tell ICE "I'm sorry, we don't have the authority to do that."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It was ICE detaining him not the judge. The authority for ICE to detain him over rode the judges ability to release him

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

ICE was requesting the judge detain him, which was apparently beyond their authority. The correct answer would have been to tell ICE "I'm sorry, we don't have the authority to do that."

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

They're gonna do this en masse right before the next election. Before it's over, we'll see ICE kidnapping people who are in line to vote. After all, they can clear up any "mistakes" after they've prevented people from voting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds like there's going to be a lot of bodies in line (and on the ground) during voting.

[–] neukenindekeuken 25 points 3 weeks ago

We're so fucked

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

And for the love of god, train. Get classes if you can.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree this is total fuckery, but at least the dude was released hours later.

Source

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Says they can hold for 48 hours for DHS to take them into custody. He was released Thursday evening but I dont see when he was arrested. If it was Tuesday evening then the only reason he was released was because DHS didn’t take him into custody which implies they realized they couldn’t and didn’t even attempt to get him released sooner or punishing him with a 48 hour imprisonment was the whole point. What’s to stop them from imprisoning any citizen for 2 days for whatever reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

You're not wrong, but in this specific case he was in ICE custody for less than 12 hours.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We’re so lucky that guy in El Salvador isn’t dead. I’d expect a response of riots, and an armed, violent response to any ICE activity, since getting nabbed by them is a high likelihood of death even if innocent and legal.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago

What did the last round of riots get you?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Oh Judge Riggans, you ain't white either. You think you're safe but you're far from it.