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[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Ah yes. "Muted".

If you should be aware of anything, it should be that if you have an Internet connected microphone the only way to truly know it's muted is to remove it from power.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yep, was gonna post this.

Good luck, this hospital's IT department, good fucking luck.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some of them have hardware switches

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

but that could simply be wired to an LED and nothing else

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

By that logic these devices can have internal batteries too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And ones without internet can have secret antennas

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

These companies don't even have to go to that much trouble, since people seem to be just fine connecting everything to the internet willingly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This. They don't give a shit about the tiny, infinitesimal percentage of people like me and my fellow privacy-conscious lemmings that understand what's going on, care about it, and refuse to participate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is why regulations to reign in corporate bullshit exist, expecting the average person to have even the faintest idea why this is important isn't reasonable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I agree 100%. You shouldn’t have to be a fucking engine mechanic to drive to the grocery store.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The first-gen echo devices at least actually had a board that listened for the activation word only that then powered on the main device. It's why you couldn't name them whatever you wanted, but had to choose between "Echo", "Alexa", "Amazon", or "Computer."

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I had a few Google Home devices, they had a switch to turn off the mic. I assume it was legit switch, because the thing literally yelled at you and had bright red lights any time you muted it. It literally said "The mic is turned off" every time it booted up in a voice that reminds me of a child tattling on their sibling.

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[–] actionjbone 7 points 1 month ago

Preferably, by throwing it out a 6th-floor window

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

You could always get a multimeter and check the voltage outgoing the ADC if you are skeptical.

[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This sign implies they're fully aware of how unsafe it is to have a device like that. SO WHY THE FUCK DO THEY HAVE ONE?!

[–] pneumatron 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Oh they're so cool and convenient!!

/s but sadly not /s

I hate this place

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I guess it’s a tele-health thing? Otherwise yeah wtf

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago

Please remember to unplug and throw the echo out of the building. Preferably into a woodchipper.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago

Only acceptable if their mute button is a hammer.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the"mute" feature, a.k.a. "I'm not listening, pinky promise! 😇."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Alexa, please unmute!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I worked for a couple years at a residential school where a lot of the kids had significant medical issues (to the point part of our training was on HIPAA). Tons of kids had echo devices, and I spent a significant chunk of my time there trying to get anyone to take seriously the huge privacy risk those things posed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Is it more of a risk than your cell phone?

[–] gravitas_deficiency 30 points 1 month ago

Pull the fuckin plug, holy shit. It’s not that hard.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not even surprised. All your info is being sent around by shady fax-to-email conversion companies using Chinese servers. Ask me how I know--we use them.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Why is there a mugshot superimposed on this photo? It's just one of those psychological tests where most people don't see it because they expect the window to be reflecting something and they're just reading the sign?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It's the mugshot of Ted Kaczynski, AKA the Unabomber, who was quite famous for having an extreme aversion to technology and how he perceived its role in the downfall of society.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know shit's bad when you start to realize Ted had a few good points.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Uncle Ted had a lot of good points, he just went about expressing them uhhhhhh

VERY poorly

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Makes sense. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

This person manifestos

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Please do not say 'Down with Big Brother' unless the Telescreen is 'turned off'"

🙄

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Not even turned off... Just muted. Because that's the same thing as not listening.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So very curious about the Ted Kaczynski photo in the background.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

His manifesto was all about technology controlling our lives. That’s my guess as to why that’s in there.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

It's a meme that people will add his photo to images of technology acting in ways that it shouldn't.

Another example:

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I want such a voice thingy, but 100% local.

Homeassistant is making porgress with this idea, but it's a slow progress.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's how I feel about AI stuff too. Like, I'd love to "Ghibli-fi" my family like everyone else, but I'd prefer to run it locally rather than hand over family photos to one of these AI companies.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Same boat. Tools like this and Gemini make managing my ADHD sooooo much easier. Having a JARVIS-esque "AI personal assistant" would make a lot of my struggles less debilitating. I'd even be willing to pay, as long as the data stayed private.

[–] WoodScientist 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tools like this and Gemini make managing my ADHD sooooo much easier.

Can you elaborate on this?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

My working memory is terrible. If I don't write something down, it's likely forgotten. I've always tried to keep a pen and paper on me, to varying degrees of success. Now, instead I can "Hey Google, add x to my grocery list" and it'll add it to my shopping list in Keep, or "... Create a reminder/alarm/event for..." for reminders to empty the dishwasher in 45 minutes or remember that I just agreed to plans on Saturday.

I'm not a huge fan of Google anymore, but I still willingly use their services because the tradeoff is that beneficial to me.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think local voice to text algorithms have gotten pretty freaking accurate. You'd need a way to activate listen, send it over the router, then receive the output signal to an Arduino/Raspberry Pi to switch something on or off. I'm sure it's not terribly difficult to design, but I bet the subscription model is so lucrative no one with the know how would offer a local version.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We had this policy at my last job, but not due to HIPAA. Any time "Alexa" came up in conversations, it was very common for peoples' devices to chime in, telling on them.

Granted, we were in tech, so we were very aware that these things aren't recording everything you say and sending the recordings off to motherbrain nor "spying", per se.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I recall them being caught of being in the possession of recordings they shouldn’t have had.

On top of this the option of not sending recordings to the cloud is being removed just now - so they stopped pretending to respect your privacy.

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