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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 126 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Ah yes. "Muted".

If you should be aware of anything, it should be that if you have an Internet connected microphone the only way to truly know it's muted is to remove it from power.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yep, was gonna post this.

Good luck, this hospital's IT department, good fucking luck.

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[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some of them have hardware switches

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

but that could simply be wired to an LED and nothing else

[–] wischi@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

By that logic these devices can have internal batteries too.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And ones without internet can have secret antennas

[–] trogon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These companies don't even have to go to that much trouble, since people seem to be just fine connecting everything to the internet willingly.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This. They don't give a shit about the tiny, infinitesimal percentage of people like me and my fellow privacy-conscious lemmings that understand what's going on, care about it, and refuse to participate.

[–] wizblizz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is why regulations to reign in corporate bullshit exist, expecting the average person to have even the faintest idea why this is important isn't reasonable.

I agree 100%. You shouldn’t have to be a fucking engine mechanic to drive to the grocery store.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The first-gen echo devices at least actually had a board that listened for the activation word only that then powered on the main device. It's why you couldn't name them whatever you wanted, but had to choose between "Echo", "Alexa", "Amazon", or "Computer."

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[–] greybeard@lemmy.one 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I had a few Google Home devices, they had a switch to turn off the mic. I assume it was legit switch, because the thing literally yelled at you and had bright red lights any time you muted it. It literally said "The mic is turned off" every time it booted up in a voice that reminds me of a child tattling on their sibling.

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[–] actionjbone 7 points 1 week ago

Preferably, by throwing it out a 6th-floor window

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

You could always get a multimeter and check the voltage outgoing the ADC if you are skeptical.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 110 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This sign implies they're fully aware of how unsafe it is to have a device like that. SO WHY THE FUCK DO THEY HAVE ONE?!

[–] pneumatron 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Oh they're so cool and convenient!!

/s but sadly not /s

I hate this place

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[–] silverlose@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

I guess it’s a tele-health thing? Otherwise yeah wtf

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago

Please remember to unplug and throw the echo out of the building. Preferably into a woodchipper.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

Only acceptable if their mute button is a hammer.

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the"mute" feature, a.k.a. "I'm not listening, pinky promise! 😇."

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

Alexa, please unmute!

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I worked for a couple years at a residential school where a lot of the kids had significant medical issues (to the point part of our training was on HIPAA). Tons of kids had echo devices, and I spent a significant chunk of my time there trying to get anyone to take seriously the huge privacy risk those things posed.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Is it more of a risk than your cell phone?

[–] gravitas_deficiency 30 points 1 week ago

Pull the fuckin plug, holy shit. It’s not that hard.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not even surprised. All your info is being sent around by shady fax-to-email conversion companies using Chinese servers. Ask me how I know--we use them.

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[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Why is there a mugshot superimposed on this photo? It's just one of those psychological tests where most people don't see it because they expect the window to be reflecting something and they're just reading the sign?

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's the mugshot of Ted Kaczynski, AKA the Unabomber, who was quite famous for having an extreme aversion to technology and how he perceived its role in the downfall of society.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You know shit's bad when you start to realize Ted had a few good points.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Uncle Ted had a lot of good points, he just went about expressing them uhhhhhh

VERY poorly

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Makes sense. Thanks.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

This person manifestos

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Please do not say 'Down with Big Brother' unless the Telescreen is 'turned off'"

🙄

Not even turned off... Just muted. Because that's the same thing as not listening.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I want such a voice thingy, but 100% local.

Homeassistant is making porgress with this idea, but it's a slow progress.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's how I feel about AI stuff too. Like, I'd love to "Ghibli-fi" my family like everyone else, but I'd prefer to run it locally rather than hand over family photos to one of these AI companies.

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[–] Tower@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Same boat. Tools like this and Gemini make managing my ADHD sooooo much easier. Having a JARVIS-esque "AI personal assistant" would make a lot of my struggles less debilitating. I'd even be willing to pay, as long as the data stayed private.

[–] WoodScientist 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tools like this and Gemini make managing my ADHD sooooo much easier.

Can you elaborate on this?

[–] Tower@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

My working memory is terrible. If I don't write something down, it's likely forgotten. I've always tried to keep a pen and paper on me, to varying degrees of success. Now, instead I can "Hey Google, add x to my grocery list" and it'll add it to my shopping list in Keep, or "... Create a reminder/alarm/event for..." for reminders to empty the dishwasher in 45 minutes or remember that I just agreed to plans on Saturday.

I'm not a huge fan of Google anymore, but I still willingly use their services because the tradeoff is that beneficial to me.

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[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think local voice to text algorithms have gotten pretty freaking accurate. You'd need a way to activate listen, send it over the router, then receive the output signal to an Arduino/Raspberry Pi to switch something on or off. I'm sure it's not terribly difficult to design, but I bet the subscription model is so lucrative no one with the know how would offer a local version.

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[–] Civil_Liberty@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So very curious about the Ted Kaczynski photo in the background.

[–] miraclerandy@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

His manifesto was all about technology controlling our lives. That’s my guess as to why that’s in there.

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It's a meme that people will add his photo to images of technology acting in ways that it shouldn't.

Another example:

[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We had this policy at my last job, but not due to HIPAA. Any time "Alexa" came up in conversations, it was very common for peoples' devices to chime in, telling on them.

Granted, we were in tech, so we were very aware that these things aren't recording everything you say and sending the recordings off to motherbrain nor "spying", per se.

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I recall them being caught of being in the possession of recordings they shouldn’t have had.

On top of this the option of not sending recordings to the cloud is being removed just now - so they stopped pretending to respect your privacy.

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