This fiasco brought to you by the American voter.
politics
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
Buy the ticket, Take the ride!
I'm sure the Trump administration doesn't care. They weren't having the conversation on Signal to hide it from foreign governments, it was to hide it from the American public.
All because murica is a racist, misogynistic country that couldnt handle the thought of a black woman leading the country. Hope it works out well for ya!
Oh you mean they read the Atlantic
Bacon, a former Air Force brigadier general
So he's not just a random idiot like most GOP reps I guess. Not precluding him from being an idiot on account of being a GOP rep though. Kamala won his district so he wouldn't gain much from sucking Trump's dick too often.
Bacon has only enough spine to say that things are not okay just before voting lockstep with his party.
Especially since one of the members in the chat was in fact IN RUSSIA at the time!
What are the odds they were included in that chat on purpose?
I would say next to none.
If they indeed used personal phones of regular consumer brands then ... yeah, I assume zero day exploits would indeed have been used to gain persistent access. It's at least in the realm of the possible.
In fairness, Trump likely called Putin and told him personally...
Of course. Fucking synchronous replication for this administration with Russia.
Don Bacon, I will guarantee you with 99.99% certainty that nobody else saw those chats. But that doesn't matter, highly sensitive internal government discussions should not be had on consumer messaging platforms.
Also, it's sad and telling when the highlight of the event is how information was handled and not the fact that civilians on the other side of the world were killed using millions of dollars of taxpayer money.
“I will guarantee you, 99.99 percent with confidence, Russia and China are monitoring those two phones,” Bacon told CNN’s Manu Raju. “So I just think it’s a security violation, and there’s no doubt that Russia and China saw this stuff within hours of the actual attacks on Yemen or the Houthis.”
This "article" provides zero evidence of the assertion, and just assumes China and Russia own these phones with an on-device compromise? Signal is encrypted, unlike the SMS infrastructure which has been fully owned by China for years. The only known way to compromise it is on a device itself, not by "monitoring" these devices (watching SMS traffic). Or, this pundit knows about secret Signal hacks the rest of the world doesn't...
Signal doesn't bridge to SMS any more, so I fail to see how these messages would be intercepted unless these people are walking around with compromised phones. Yes, it'd only take one person in this group to compromise the whole thing, but making this assertion without any explainer is just clickbait.