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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Narrator: The left did not, in fact, get everyone's basic needs met.

Both Democrats and Republicans have been moving steadily to the right for the last 40 years. So Democrats are now where Republicans were in the 1980s: friends of banks, insurance and pharmaceutical companies. And the right has moved all the way into an insane asylum.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Whoever told you Democrats are leftists told you a big BIG lie. With some exceptions, like Bernie, and maybe AOC, most democrats are centrist, or even "economically right wing".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

People not realising this is what's so baffling.

Narrator: The left did not, in fact, get everyone’s basic needs met because it hasn't been in power for nearly half a century. And incidentally, every time it was represented in government there were major strides in "getting everyone's needs met".

Don't believe me? Do a Google search for "most liberal/leftist US presidents", click any of these listicles and try to find the most recent leftist president. Notice how there isn't a single one more recent than 1969?

For most of you reading this, the last actual leftist government predates your parents' birth.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

1969

For most of you [...] this predates your parents’ birth.

Why did you have to make me feel old

[–] turnip 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Still waiting on that basic need.

Biden built entire wings onto for-profit hospitals during Covid, while ironically being against universal healthcare. Almost like his donors didn't want it or something.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Biden and the democrats are far left? Come on... As a European, that sounds absurd.

In the US political spectrum, democrats are center-left at most. Compared to European politics, they'd even be considered center-right or conservative on many issues.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Biden is not even close to far left.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

He's left of far right lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Dictatorships are dictatorships, regardless of the political ideology. Both sides did horrible things, like purging intellectuals and anyone seen as a potential threat, mass murder of entire social groups, maintaining informant networks to instil fear etc.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Dictatorships are dictatorships, regardless of the political ideology.

A dictatorship of the bourgeois is radically different from a dictatorship of the proletariat, both in form and in function.

Both sides did horrible things

Guys with their "Ask me about the War of Northern Aggression" baseball caps are constantly saying this

purging intellectuals and anyone seen as a potential threat, mass murder of entire social groups, maintaining informant networks to instil fear etc.

DSA: "We should open up the Medicare rolls to anyone who wants it and grant everyone in the country universal basic income through Social Security"

Libertarian: "This gives the government way too much power. If you can give someone health care or a basic income, you can control who gains access to very fundamental basic human needs. And that will lead to tyranny."

Also Libertarian: "I love the DHS. I love the DHS so much. Strong borders! Private prisons! Deportations without a court hearing! This is the network state I always dreamed of! Can't wait until Trump starts issuing EOs to form charter cities and America is just 1000 Singapores in a trench coat. Also, everything Javier Milei is doing in Argentina is fucking based. I love how MBS is running Saudi Arabia. And I can't wait to join the private mercenary army that reclaims Greenland from those weak-kneed namby pamby socialists in Denmark."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

First comment I have seen here that's even half intelligent. Most people seem to be confusing leftists with Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Meeting everyone's basic needs isn't even far left. This is how far the Overton window has shifted to the right. Meeting everyone's basic needs is left-of-centre. Far left would be state owned and controlled everything, redistribution of wealth via any means necessary, all public services fully state funded and free for all at the point of use.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Far left would be state owned and controlled everything, redistribution of wealth via any means necessary, all public services fully state funded and free for all at the point of use.

"Socialism is when the government does stuff, and communism is when the government does all the stuff. What is a mode of production?"

God I fucking hate how the capitalist authoritarian states of the last century managed to gaslight everyone into believing this shit.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's from the USA perspective. People not dying of easily preventable diseases, or children not going hungry, are extreme left for them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Many of us would disagree with that, but in aggregate we’ve just elected “burn this motherfucker down with us inside” instead of the alternative who was still way too far to the right for most of us here on Lemmy, so you are unfortunately correct.

If you proposed children not going hungry to some of my conservative relatives, even in a room of mixed company they would say out loud something like “why should I have to pay to feed the kids they can’t afford because they can’t close their legs or put down the crack pipe long enough to get a job?” (Racist dog whistle very much intentional)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Meeting everyone’s basic needs isn’t even far left.

When saying "Please stop bombing Palestinian children" is the most ultra-Tankie Iranian Revolutionary Guard propaganda printed in modern history, it does appear that public amenities are outside even the farthest fringes of left-wing ideology.

Far left would be state owned and controlled everything

I remember Elon Musk calling himself a socialist. And now that I'm looking at how he and Trump are running the country, I guess this does fit the above definition of Far-Left.

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