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[–] [email protected] 1 points 52 minutes ago

Tuta has been great.

Proton choked down my chargeback after they said some unwarranted nice things about US republicans.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

I switched to Proton a few days ago, can't complain for the moment!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Mailo (France) for me!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Switched to Tuta and bought a domain. It's been great so far. I can create an email alias with this domain for each service I use. Also have a proton free account but not sure yet what I will use it for (it was for testing before). I also created a disroot account since I really like what they are doing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I'm also using Tuta. Very user friendly. I also have a StartMail account. Kindly depending which one I want to keep using. Maybe Tuta for personal things and my StartMail mail address for subscriptions and business related.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I did the same thing, switched to tuta and bought my own domain. They had but together a video tutorial on how to fill out the needed values to use the custom domain. It was super easy and I am very happy with this new setup.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I use posteo.de, and are very happy with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

posteo going well for me too!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I'm very happy with Proton.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 57 minutes ago

proton team too

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

I am, as well.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Ive switched to Proton. Ofc only found out about their CEO after switching, but the have my trust for one. Also really enjoying their other services (password manager, VPN, Drive). Switched to a Duo subscription together with my brother. Quite content so far

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I switched to Proton as well, on a Duo subscription together with my boyfriend.
I also took the opportunity to set up my own email domain, so I can be more mobile with my choice in mail provider.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Well, follow up then, which provider did you choose that is maybe also European? And something where I maybe don't need to attach my name to the registration of the domain? Not sure that is unrealistic, I just don't like to have my name publicly shown in some registry when someone would lookup my domain.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Moved away from Proton since their CEO couldn't keep his mouth shut.

Migrated to migadu.com, works nicely.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I must've missed this, what did he say?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

He has on several occasions offered praise to the Trump Republican Party. He quote tweeted a post from Truth Social where Trump announced his nominee for Assistant Attorney General for the Antitrust Division at the Department of Justice:

Great pick by @realDonaldTrump. 10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned. People forget that the current antitrust actions against Big Tech were started under the first Trump admin.

When the response to this tweet was negative, the official Reddit account doubled-down:

Here is our official response, also available on the Mastodon post in the screenshot:

Corporate capture of Dems is real. In 2022, we campaigned extensively in the US for anti-trust legislation.

Two bills were ready, with bipartisan support. Chuck Schumer (who coincidentally has two daughters working as big tech lobbyists) refused to bring the bills for a vote.

At a 2024 event covering antitrust remedies, out of all the invited senators, just a single one showed up - JD Vance.

By working on the front lines of many policy issues, we have seen the shift between Dems and Republicans over the past decade first hand.

Dems had a choice between the progressive wing (Bernie Sanders, etc), versus corporate Dems, but in the end money won and constituents lost.

Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans are more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.

This post was then deleted with Yen claiming it was a "miscommunication" and pledging that Proton would stop offering its political opinions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 52 minutes ago

It'sucks that he's cheering trump but the things he says about democrats are entirely plausible... I mean... would anyone be surprised that politicians are corrupt regardless of the party?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

Basically said that Trump was a nice guy with good politics, and he cheered him up.

https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Did not need to switch as I've been using my own domain names (French registrar with French and/or German hostings) since I created my first website... back when quite a few of you reading this today were not even born yet. No, that does not mean I'm that old. Absolutely not :p

I also have a proton and a tuta account (and @ mailbox.org one), just in case someone prefers a more privacy-friendly email than my non-encrypted domain emails, and since neither tuta or Proton are compatible when exchanging encrypted emails, I have both. That being said, I seldom use them: most people simply don't care about privacy.

I use(d to use) gmail for all crappy online stuff I don't care much about losing access to. I will probably end up getting rid of it entirely but, to me at least, even though I know it's possible to do it without a YT account, that would also mean quit watching YT, which is something I still appreciate doing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

I've set up my Proton mail but haven't moved stuff over yet. Any good alternatives to Google Authenticator?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 hours ago

I use Aegis, an open source alternative that works just like Google and Microsoft Authenticator.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I use 2FAs. It's open-source but it seems to be based in Nevada.. Otherwise great app.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

IDK what Google Authenticator does, but I just use KeepassXC's TOTP feature for my 2FA.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Proton pass has this functionality. You can also give it a separate password so if someone gets access to your proton email they can't get into pass

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I've been using mailbox.org since a while. Reliable and 12€ per year, can't really complain. Easy domain name too

[–] [email protected] 1 points 52 minutes ago

Also a fan of mailbox having switched

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

mailbox.org I still have iCloud as second mail, while I tried to exclude Gmail as much a I could, but I cannot delete it entirely yet. Right know about 90% of all the email are on Mailbox.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

Tuta has been cool. Not sure if I want to commit yet though. Hate that can't use thunderbird with a free-account but I am considering just getting a paid account.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

I moved to proton, then found out about their CEO (fuck Nazi apologists) and moved again to tuta. I've been very happy with their service. It's just email/calendar, so more like 'no issues to report'.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

Switched my custom domain to mailbox.org from icloud

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I've been using KolabNow for these past few years. Swiss-based with a focus on privacy. No issues, really like it. I also have a personal e-mail address with my name, but that one I have with a local domain registrar.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Infomaniak, such a great service for such a low price. Bought my own domain via them and the email hosting is free / just links with their plus plan.

1TB drive for 2 euros a month is a steal

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Better not say it out loud but it's 100% European ❤️

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

I moved to notion. I think the CEO story is somewhat overblown. But I’m using custom domains in case I’m proven wrong, which will make it easy to switch if I have to.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

I've been with tuta using a custom domain for a couple years now. Started switching most my services away from Google et al for pro privacy reasons a long time ago. It just so happens that these kind of decisions end up with the same results as moving to EU based solutions.

I feel like for most people their email account is just somewhere their emails go. And trust me there are plenty of options out there. If Google Calendar etc is something that your missing, then look for a alternative calendar service rather than an email service.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Switched to proton, cancelled o365 subscription.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I want to do this so bad. Issue is they don't offer enough storage for me. I need like 3 tb for photos and videos. Hope they offer add-ons to make that a possibility

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

Been in the proton ecosystem for 5 years, never leaving

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

I have been using the free Proton, but I'm very tempted by Mail+. Something just feels strange about paying for email after it being free for 20 years

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

I've been using web.de for decades now

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

I moved all my photos, videos and emails to Proton.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Topic/question that I don't see commented on often: how are you guys finding the telling other people (verbally, out loud) about your email?

I feel I could tell someone "at proton dot com" without having to spell it but in the UK I feel any way I try to pronounce tuta is going to result in me having to say "at tango uniform tango alpha dot com" or otherwise people will misunderstand and send me about a million messages at tutta, toota, Tuter, twitter, doota, or even more creative spellings.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I bought a domain name and set it up on tuta to get an email address that I like. It was super easy to setup, tuta had created a video tutorial that showed how to setup a custom domain step by step.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You can also change your email address to @pm.me which might be easier to say?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What is the provider linked to pm.me?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

I created a mailbox.org account. But so far I have only moved contacts and my calendar. I'm still a bit miffed that they don't support proper oauth/MFA. Guess that never got established as a standard for email :(

But otherwise it works great for what I need.

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