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I have to get certifications as part of my job and because all of my coworkers and I keep failing these really hard tests, we aren't allow to study during downtime on the clock. We were told to study on our own time.

Getting certs is part of what is required for me to get bigger raises and get promoted and all that jazz. I don't want to use my personal time for this. None of the people who are in this predicament do.

I have a meeting in a few days to discuss goals and I need to figure out how to tell my boss that using my own time for work shit is unacceptable.

I really like this job other than this one aspect of it and I don't want to make anyone mad, but I need to express my boundaries and all that

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

Have you tried telling them to Fuck oof?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

because all of my coworkers and I keep failing these really hard tests, we aren't allow to study during downtime on the clock.

Well there's your answer. It sounds like they are tired of making losing investments.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

Not allowing you to study more as a result of failing a cert exam seems to be counterintuitive. I guess it would first depend on your current work relationship with your boss. If you have a good relationship and it’s easy to approach them about issues, I’d say ask them directly but respectfully. It would probably help to clarify your proposal (i.e. setting aside 30-60mins maybe at the tail end of your work day, and only on specific days of the week), so you’re just not coming in with a demand. Now obviously you have more pressure to pass the exams to justify it.

[–] DaCrazyJamez 3 points 19 hours ago

Send them an invoice for "outside consultation and development" at roughly triple your current wage

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Read the title of this post oitloud to him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago

If you need the cert to do your job they should compensate you (i.e. allow you to use company time). If it's not required then I would say I'm going to accept the risks of not becoming certified as the time investment is not feasible for me. Many people provide value staying in the same role for years and advancement, if it's a net negative to someone's overall well-being, should be optional at the employees discretion.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

If a stock broker or insurance actuary had this sort of opinion they would be making 50k not 300k. When else would they study for their exams and certs?

If I as a PhD candidate didn’t work on my own time I will never get my PhD.

This seems like a /antiwork terminally online position to have. I agree in only giving bosses what we are required but this is for you to succeed.

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