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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Isn't this the exact type of thing the 2nd Amendment types were supposed to have their guns and militia to guard against?

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (4 children)

ive seen a lot of nazi protesters with masks on though. what about those cunts?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Everybody knows this is solely about continuing the genocide in palestine.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

stop it with goose and gander comparisons. it's not fair. quit expecting it to be. want it to be fair? MAKE IT FAIR

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[–] bitwolf 16 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

So what about legal protests?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Will remain legal until they're not

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[–] rustydrd 221 points 1 day ago (30 children)
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[–] [email protected] 142 points 1 day ago (11 children)

What's an illegal protest? I thought first amendment speech covered that

Also, how can he expel a student from a school he doesn't control? or does he mean expel students from the country?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Since many answers aren't actually answering the question...

Most places require a permit to assemble en masse. There are "free speech zones" where you can create large gatherings without any kind of advance notice or permit or whatever. Most universities have a free speech zone towards the middle of their campuses. Cities will also often have at least one but somewhere that doesn't inconvenience commerce, like a park or near city hall.

Most mass assembly requires a permit and sometimes a fee, even in public places. Following this prevents arrest by "disturbing the peace" or other such laws, usually.

How this squares with the first amendment is interpretation. Individual freedom of speech is protected except very specific public order and safety things, e.g. calling for violence. Coordinated, mass freedom of speech is perceived as a fast path to rioting.

I'm not saying this is right, but this is my understanding of how things work. I'm not a lawyer or an expert in these matters. This is just what I learned from activist friends in my university time ages ago.

As for expulsion, public universities are run by states. To my understand, Trump has no legal mechanism to do this. He's just talking out of his ass or expects to bully public institutions into expelling students by threatening to withhold department of education funding... but he's planning to kill that anyway, so 🤷‍♂️

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (3 children)

An illegal protest, according to conservatives, is any protest they disagree with. Waving picket signs or blocking traffic is disruptive, destructive, and illegal. Storming the capitol is, on the other hand, a perfectly acceptable peaceful protest.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Next week. New legislation, all protests are now illegal

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I didn’t think it was possible to hate this fucker more and more each day and yet here we are.

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

John F. Kennedy

[–] [email protected] 254 points 1 day ago (56 children)

“…illegal protest…”?

Oh right, the US Constitution doesn’t exist any more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

now you're catching on! You'll be head of a department in no time under drumpf's regime!

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[–] [email protected] 152 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Mask up. Leave your phones at home. Break shit.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (9 children)

They're STILL fucking pissy about masks?

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 1 day ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah yes, that free speech that Musk is always taking about.

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[–] [email protected] 368 points 1 day ago (4 children)

honey look, freedom of expression and the right to protest in America just ~~got~~ dropped.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Again. Right from the play book

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[–] [email protected] 286 points 1 day ago (84 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

While I did vote blue conservative (for the last time), they were not worthy of that vote because they did not represent me. That's how representative democracy works. What you advocate for is not representative democracy, it is a hostage situation and should be treated like the crisis that that entails.

Why are you okay with people being underrepresented at the voting booth? Are you actively working to replace First Past the Post voting in your state? People should have the freedom to vote for the candidates they believe are best, while still ensuring their votes count against those they don’t want in office.

It's not as though democrats are just now learning of the mathematical flaws of FPTP. Every election I've seen the same bullshit excuses to take people's inalienable right to vote how they want. Democrats in blue states made a choice to leave a huge portion of the population unrepresented, all for safe states and easy elections.

We don’t need to wait for a miracle from Congress, we can pass election reform one state at a time. Should we have more elections, we must remove the democratic monopoly on this fight against the republicans. Don't worry, blue conservative, you will be free to vote for your preference under a more representative electoral system. Because who would want to deny someone the right to vote for the person they feel is best? You apparently.

Alaska has already abolished FPTP voting. After Ranked Choice Voting kept Sarah Palin out of office, Alaskan Republicans tried to pass a referendum to revert to FPTP, but the people voted to keep Ranked Choice. Why would you want to use the same voting system that Republicans favor? Do you support democracy, or do you get off on forcing people unrepresented in government to vote for your preference?

Videos on alternative voting systems

First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.

STAR voting

Alternative vote

Ranked Choice voting

Range Voting

Single Transferable Vote

Mixed Member Proportional representation

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The country that did the Million Man March would rather cuck for this guy now.

Yes daddy. Ok daddy. You’re so manly we love you.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago

There was a poll a few days before the famous march on Washington that culminated in King's "I have a dream speech" and two thirds of Americans thought the march was unamerican.

America has always hated uppity protesters demanding rights.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck my student loans then. Seriously. Fuck you. Fuck you Drumpf. Fuck you. Aaahhhh! Asshole!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

Well you never know. He's fired so many people I wouldn't be surprised if they've lost track of who owes them what.

[–] [email protected] 238 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is the same as the Zelensky trap. They're going to cut federal funding regardless. The just plan on getting you to bend the knee before hand.

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[–] [email protected] 191 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

1st ammendment to the constitution since conservatives love to claim they support it

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