By gekko513
this post was submitted on 26 Feb 2025
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Conspicuously missing. Technically the nonprofit foundation behind signal is American but it's open source so it doesn't really 'belong' anywhere.
Backend is AWS though.
Backend is zero knowledge though
Whatโs a good AWS alternative?
Hetzner or OVH might have similar products.
fuck Spotify though
Deezer used to be better until they blocked my access because I had to turn off my adblocker; I had a premium account at the time so sure I'll turn it off (a bit weird that it still asked), but it kept blocking my access...
It started blocking Firefox's built in tracker blocking... Even for Premium accounts!
I'll sail the high seas for anything not on Bandcamp (even tho it's American) at that point, fuck!
Tidal has been pretty good for me! Their Android Auto interface is horrible but I don't use Android Auto anyways so no biggie
They are owned by the American Block Inc., so that's something to consider.
Oh fair, the whole point of the original post
Yeah, but to be fair I happily use Bandcamp even though it's from the US.
I agree with the spirit but do not consider Viaplay especially if you are in the Netherlands. The price you pay for the absolute lack of quality you get and their unfair monopolising of licenses are ridiculous.
Maybe take a second look at recommending Proton Mail
I mean... It is European...
Blender should be on there as an alternative to many Autodesk and Adobe products
I feel a lot of appliance brands are missing but for some reason I can't think of any.
Also, many chocolate brands including Lindt, Tony's Chocolonely and Ritter Sport (didn't forget this time!)
Looking up, there are so many traditional appliance producers that were sold to US companies. Why is that? People still buy because of the trust in the old name (Braun, Bauknecht) but the profits go overseas.
But I found Siemens.
And some holding companies that hold a lot of brands. Most of them, I don't know, but some might.
- Arรงelik: Beko, Grundig, Altus, Blomberg, Leisure, Elektra Bregenz, Arctic, Flavel, Defy, Dawlance und Voltbek.
- Gorenje
- B/S/H: Bosch and Siemens
- Electrolux: AEG, Zanussi
oh no not the zanussi
For mail and cloud services, I also highly recommend Infomaniak !
Basically a replacement for Google Docs (and integrated Web editor that even support draw.io files) , Emails, Teams, and website hosting including.
Isnโt booking.com a European company?
It's based in the Netherlands but the parent company is American.
There's lots of questionable companies on both sides of that list.
What's the best replacement for google workspace?
I applaud the effort in this list but at times it looks like comparing apples to oranges. You can't replace workspace or m365 with any of those things unless you're not really using it fully to begin with. People use it as groupware and you can't replace that by stuff like libre office. I've dabbled a bit with zimbra but to think an average user like my friends and family could do this is even more silly.
I wish I had the time and money to literally set up a cheap groupware solution for people but realistically the effort put into that scales so hard it doesn't make sense unfortunately.
I thought that was the direction Nextcloud was working towards?
I dropped NC when it was starting to head in that direction, so I'm out of touch with it now
That's interesting indeed. Checked out some of them near me and on features they seem to offer something at least. But for me it shows the scale clearly unfortunately. M365 family is costing me 100 euro a month and gives my family members 1TB OneDrive storage each . (So 5TB) Logically the partners using next cloud don't seem to offer that for something even approaching this price point.
But it is good to know and worth mentioning as an alternative groupware solution! Thanks for that!
Don't use their spyware use ours!
TIL there is an electronic company called 'Nothing'.
It's Carl Pei, the OnePlus guy. They look kinda neat, but update support isn't great, I think.
Nothing (the smartphones) is Chinese actually
Love it! Do you have it in a better quality so that people can print it out and distribute in person?
Also, would you be willing to share the source document, so that people can translate into other languages (and adapt the product lists to make it more relevant for their country)?