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[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Yes, you can recycle plastic. Yes, its complex due to different types and grades of it. The only responsibility of the consumer is to put it into the right bin.

Yes, the corporations creating plastic products should do more. It doesn't have to be financially feasible to recycle it, It needs to be ecologically feasible and companies producing plastic products should pay the recycling toll.

We can also just burn it for energy like we do with tires... I recycle it like a good little cog in the machine because even if 5% of it gets back into product and not into my penis, is a win.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We need to make it financially feasible to properly recycle plastics by making it so damn expensive for companies to be wasteful with plastics. Among many other things, of course.

I doubt it will happen in our lifetimes, though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

The true long term solution is eliminating plastic. Back in the iron age there were glass bottles used to distribute milk and they were returned to be used again. Of course this system is more complicated and expensive than trucking in oil and turning it into single use containers so it'll never happen before the world is burned.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

95% of microplastics going to your penis is considered a win?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

If your erection lasts longer than 400 years please seek medical attention

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I take 95 over 100 but if you want a plastic dick, have at it haha

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I need to clean it to a concerning degree as well or risk being fined.

Also, where do those burned plastic fumes go after being burned also matter and I'm not confident they're not just being sent straight back to my lungs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I don't have a problem with cleaning tbh. It's not required here but I just feel icky if I put a yogurt stained container into the bin.

With burning, it must be done at very high temperatures to ensure the resulting gasses get burned as well. Here I generally ment collect plastic and send it to a facility which has furnaces which can accommodate this kind of waste (like rubber tires).

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

One of the many other problems with recycling besides this tidbit, is the fact that most people don't even follow the first two instructions before recycling. Nobody reuses anything and nobody has reduced their consumption.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

There's a bulk food store near me and it allows BYO containers (or you can use one of their compostable bags). It's great! A little bit more work (you need to tare your/container write down the empty weight), but you get your goods in the container of your choice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I'm always reminded of the iCarly episode about recycling.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

I used to recycle, then I moved out on my own and found out I have to pay extra for it.

Should be paid for by these corporations, imo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

alright, ive been hearing about that. tell me something:

i grew up hearing the "save water!!11!!!!" bullshit was, well.. bullshit.

is the "recycle" thing also bullshit? how so?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

"is the "recycle" thing also bullshit? how so?"

The only honest answer to this is "it's complicated". If I had to give an oversimplified binary answer, I'd say yes, it is a bit bullshit.

To attempt to summarise part of why:

  • There are so many different kinds of plastics that actually making recycling supply chains work is difficult
  • At the household waste processing level, I've seen a few investigations that show plastic that could be recycled being sent to landfill, or incineration. This is in part because of inconsistent practices by households sorting their trash, meaning the waste processing plant has to do a heckton of work to ensure that everything is indeed recyclable. This may vary depending on one's local authority
  • Plastic recycling is far more economical at the commercial/industrial level, especially because there's less work/error in the processing side of it.
  • I think it depends on the particular plastic, but I think that plastic can generally only be recycled once, and recycled plastic is often lower quality than "virgin" plastic. This doesn't mean we shouldn't recycle plastic, but that we should be aware that it has its limits.
  • Glass and aluminium have less of these issues than plastic, but it's still more complex than most realise. Logistics of processing recycling is hard and often expensive.

Along those lines, I think the main point I want to highlight is that the phrase that was often pushed is "reduce, re-use, recycle". I think that far too much emphasis has been put on recycling in recent years, especially given the complexities and caveats with recycling that I outlined above. "Reduce, re-use, recycle" is explicitly anti-consumerist, which is why I think the rhetoric has morphed to emphasise the recycling aspect, despite recycling ideally being the last item in that list. Reduce how much stuff you're using by being mindful in your purchases, especially with plastics and the like; then consider how you could re-use stuff that you already have; only then should recycling be entering the picture.

My opinion is that changes like this are less about reducing the waste products, but more about how this kind of mindful anti-consumerism shapes us; modern society has made consumers of us all, and we desperately need to resist that as much as possible. It's hard to do because corporations have become very skilled at co-opting eco-conscious rhetoric and "green-washing" consumerism: they placate us by advertising that the plastic products they're selling us are made with 10% recycled plastic, as if that makes much difference to the fact the product will probably end up in landfill

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

People just like to look a things in a binary way and to look at excuses not do annoying things.

Só since recicling doesn't 100% solve the plastic problem obviously we should stop even trying to do the thing.

And also throw in reduce and reuse in the bucket of things not to do because why try everything at all if we can just point a finger at someone and keep not doing anything besides complain.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't think plastic waste is specific to capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

No, but the ultra wealthy having the wealthy necessary to bribe politicians, buy all our media, and push endless disinformation with zero accountability are all a direct result of capitalism.

Publically owner companies, like the USPS, are extremely transparent with how they spend money and they are held to far higher ethical standards than private companies are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah social democracy is good but it doesn't make plastic waste disappear, neither would fascism, it's nonsequitur.

Plastic is cheap. It would be as cheap for a communism as it is a capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Indeed, the 1st and 3rd worst offenders for plastic per capita are administrative regions of China (Macau and Hong Kong) https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/plastic-pollution-by-country

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

They're also a capitalism, though, so yeah.

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