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[–] [email protected] 91 points 4 days ago (4 children)

A higher percentage of voters aged 18-29 supported Harris than any other age group, but I guess don't let the facts get in the way of yelling at those damn kids like every other generation has done since forever

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah Im Gen X and we voted this guy in twice because we all grew up with leaded fuels and paint.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

no, the boomers grew up with that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

“The United States and many other countries began phasing out the use of TEL in automotive fuel in the 1970s”.
“ in 1971, Congress banned the use of lead-based paint in residential projects (including residential structures and environments) constructed by, or with the assistance of, the federal government. The Consumer Product Safety Commission followed with implementing regulations, effective in 1978.”.
“gen x generally defined as people born from 1965 to 1980”.

so, yeah kinda right… but even before the ban people were a lot more cautious about child lead exposure… i’m right at the cusp of between x and millennial so i often forget how far back gen x goes.
and there’s this weird thing where younger generations are conflating gen x with boomers but, they hate boomers more than anyone else.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That is also true and a real problem, but it would be more accurate to say that more of that 18-29 demographic who turned out to vote voted for Trump than before

We estimate that 42% of young voters (+/- 1%), ages 18-29, cast ballots in the 2024 presidential election, a lower youth turnout than in 2020—when our early estimate put youth turnout above 50%—and approximately on par with the 2016 presidential election.

We also estimate that youth voter turnout in battleground states may have been much higher: 50% on aggregate in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

Young voters cast 14% of all ballots in the 2024 election, according to the National Election Pool exit poll conducted by Edison Research. While this number may be adjusted in the coming days, and other data sources may show different numbers, this 2024 youth share of the vote was also lower than in 2020 (17%) and 2016 (19%) based on the same data source.

https://circle.tufts.edu/2024-election#overall-youth-turnout-down-from-2020-but-strong-in-battleground-states

I would be interested to see how that 50% number for those battleground states compares to the percentage of 18-29 voters who turned out in those same states in 2020 and 2016, but I think the general story here isn't that zoomers are actually getting more conservative but that the Democratic party did a terrible job getting their young voters to turn out

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Well yeah and the anti-Biden/Harris rhetoric around Palestine was mainly circulating on TikTok among GenZ voters. It was a very strong anti-turnout message being pushed to the likely Democrat GenZ voters.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Im in a swing state and none of my friends voted for him, we all were for harris.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I know it's purely anecdotal, but I also only know of Gen z voters that went for Harris. I life in California thought so that might have something to do with my data set lol

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The problem is the gigantic gender gap, far bigger than any other cohort (something like a 30 or 40 point spread between gen z men and women's voting). Many young men have a terminal case of Elon Musk and/or Andrew Tate brain.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

No, they have an incurable case of Elon Musk and/or Andrew Tate brain. If it was terminal, we might have been able to avoid this timeline.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Was gonna say, in my experience gen z is largely left-leaning

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Yet another person with a lack of understanding of why Trump won.

He got about the same amount of votes as in the last election. It's the Democrats that couldn't get people to vote for them.

What I think were the main causes are not dropping Biden sooner, failure at acknowledging his shortcomings, failure at taking a stance on Palestine and attempting to appease the right instead of their core voters.

None of these have much to do with zoomers.

EDIT: Compared to 2020, Republicans gained 3.08 million votes, while Democrats lost 6.27 million.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

How many didn't turn out due to voters suppression and intimidation? How many didn't vote because they believed it wouldn't count? America is a flawed democracy

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yep. Die hard dem supporters will blame anyone except the actual party who put on a total loser of a campaign. Noone is to blame for the dems losing except, shocker, the dems.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Anyone who voted for someone that stupid deserves blame as well.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago

Kind of a weird look to beat up on kids with shitty politics during an apocalypse, like sure there are plenty of toxic Zoomers but most of them have extremely amateur immitations of the toxic politics of whatever shithead rolemodel they look up to.

Be mad at the people these kids are idolizing, kids are impressionable that is the whole point of being a kid.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Fuck off divisive bullshit. Every generation ever has been attempted to be alienated like this, it is just more divide and conquer tactics, do not fall for it. It is still just owning class vs working class.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I got it.

They should listen to MORE toxic masculinity. Those three obviously represent the working class.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why are you convinced that all Gen Z listen to that kind of crap and nobody outside of Gen Z does? Generations have little to nothing to do with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

well the meme isn’t saying all gen z do, or only gen z… but it’s still more anti-“some generation” bullshit… which, btw, is completely arbitrary… i don’t know how people convinced themselves to divide people in to different groupings every 20 years….
baby boomers made sense, because that was a noteworthy event… otherwise it’s all stupid

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Having not read the book, is The Stand at least a quick apocalypse?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It was not. And then the uncut edition came along.

We are boned (unless you're Nadine).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

She got boned so good her hair turned white.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

It took about a month to wipe out humanity, but was an absolutely horrible way to die.

The nice thing is they've developed a vaccine for bird flu.

Bad thing is we now have an anti-vax anti-science Health Secretary.

The billionaire class and the administration will absolutely get it (so will Putin, Xi, Orban ect)

Us? Absolutely not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The stand is an awesome book with a few dated tropes/language. With that in mind, I recommend it. Some of the characters live rent free in my head.

Edit I'm big dumb and misread your comment

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

We all get fucked.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Which generations built the landscape in which the only 2 viable options where genocidal maniacs?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Tad overwhelming that there are 5.

https://www.businessinsider.com/genocides-still-going-on-today-bosnia-2017-11?op=1

Edit: oh 2017.

Might be 6 then, unless one ended.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

I don’t think it such a big thing to ask that a presidential candidate supports none of these genocides?