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Can you please stop posting users numbers until the bot situation is under control? Putting it like you're doing is misleading, half of them are bots (if not more).
this post was submitted on 22 Jun 2023
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When will the bot situation be under control?
I’m not denying the bot situation. These posts are for record keeping, and people in this thread seem aware of the bot situation. We need to get more eyes on this.
You’re welcome to start a conversation about how to solve the bot issue. I’d love to participate.
Post user activity instead? That has been suggested many times already as a far more reliable metric.
Not knowing when the bots will be under control is NOT a good reason to post misleading info, and you should know it.
Any particular website that you go to for post user activity?
I'm seeing total user comments quadrupled in the last 2 days alone (from 800k to 4+ million).
The site you linked has it, first graph is "Average Lemmy Active Users by Day" (hard to miss honestly), after that there's the one you're posting.
there's also this (select active instead of total users): https://the-federation.info/platform/73
and this (check active instead of total): https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy
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Tbh it seems to be mostly bots adding to that growth. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see the fediverse grow, but if it's overrun with bots... no one will want to stick around.
So far it looks like most of the bots are just signing up - not posting anything.
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Why do you say it's mostly bots?
There was an exploit released a few days back that could make thousands extremely fast (unsure of the number).The two top user instances at this point have 50k new users a piece, and 10 users active, lol.
Ah, stupid that people do stuff like that.
The relevant instances might as well remove non-active accounts that do not participates (e.g. upvotes or downvotes), I guess it would be enough to remove most of them
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Me here, fuck u/spez🖕
Fuck him!
I got a kick out of knowing he had millions of fuck /u/spez tags. He must know he's a bellend before being rich. His disaster bunker article was absolutely hilarious.
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As has been asked every time, how many are bots?
Yeah there are some irresponsible instance owners out there letting bots register.
yeah, the largest one is k6qw, with 52 thousand users, but only 4 users online atm compared to lemmy.world, 42.8 thousand users, 5.63 thousand online
edit: source: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list
Honestly, if these instances don't get their act together, I'd vote on my instance to defederate from it.
I'm usually not one calling for defederating, it seems like a liability, though.
The beauty of the fediverse and the power of ownership is being able to take decisions like these.
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My thought were the same way about not wanting to call for defederation, but after thinking about it and owning an instance of my own now, I realize that that is the whole point. Instance owners can block entire instances from federating with them. If every instance blocks an instance that is a bad actor then they literally can't federate with anyone and that solves the issue.
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Lest not forget that Reddit used bots when it went live to drive users there. I don't know what I mean it was just a thought.
Can't wait to see this chart come July 1st and the days the follow!
Yes. This is the future I want. I hope to help make the lemmyverse a verse worth inhabiting.
Well they have porn so I'm here for it
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I just joined. Done with that godforsaken website Reddit. It’s taking a little getting used to, but I know I eventually will get a hang of it. I’m willing to put my time into this.
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It's mostly bots, but so is Reddit. The real question is, how many of these are active participants and contributors who'll generate content and start communities?
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There are dozens of us! Baker's dozens! (We come in 13s)
I realized yesterday that i haven't been on Reddit for 3 days, but have been on Lemmy every day. It's refreshing.
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To the moon XD
Keep in mind, there's a known issue with bot registration spam so take total user count stat with a big chunk of salt:
https://botsin.space/@threadcount/110581723322900741
Daily active users is a better measure:
https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats (site stability is iffy right now, but refresh a couple times and it should load eventually)
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