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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No coincidences, trump will always bring disease and ruin. You keep welcoming the fox back into the henhouse, America.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Between this and Gaza (and everything else), I really honestly don't think we have seen a person in all of human history who checks more boxes of being the antichrist.

Like fuck, he literally brings pestilence and disease with him.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The constant edging with bird flu mania is going to make people not pay attention when it actually pops off.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This is it popping off. We've already lost a huge portion of chickens in the US. We're seeing dozens of cases in humans. And it's in cows too. The only reason it doesn't feel like a big deal is because we as a nation aren't doing anything about it yet, only individual farms are. Same way COVID went from "is this a big deal?" to "oh fuck shut everything down".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The big event will be someone with regular human flu getting bird flu, giving the virus opportunities to swap DNA segments. If it gets the transmissibility of our standard influenza and the lethality of bird flu, it'll be a rough six months to a year before we have vaccines for it as it rips through our population.

Especially considering flu vaccines are made with eggs, and this disease is currently thoroughly decimating our egg producing livestock.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The lethality is 52%. If it rips through the population, we're looking at total collapse well before the vaccine is available.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Highly dependent on the degree to which it's contagious. But you're right, especially considering we're looking at one of the worst flu seasons in more than a decade currently. If all flu cases were 50% lethal that'd be 10-15 million deaths.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The problem is that the CDC isn't getting to say anything right now, so we can assume that the moment they get to talk about it, the stupidest people you know are going to go "woah this was really sudden! They clearly made it in a lab!"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's actually a really good counter point that I hadn't thought of.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you, I've spent a lot of time giving myself brain damage so I can understand the perspective of conservatives.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Huff a lot of glue or paint, maybe ram a crayon or two in your brain. Then you might get close to understanding.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

If we just stop testing it will go away like magic. Did you learn nothing from Covid?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

When would you like to be alarmed? For me it was when it jumped to mammals.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The little boy who called bird flu, but I think the call here is that it is difficult to feel safe behind the idea that it does not cross the species barrier when you have bird flu in cows.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunately people will just think "Hey I've seen this bird flu in the news and it didn't seem bad." Then they ignore all virologist recommendations and we have a second pandemic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Too little information is as bad as too much, it is a difficult balance. The problem with information dissemination last time was not oversaturation but that people latched onto ridiculous conspiracy narratives and that derives from lack of basic education not too much news.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If we could get enough people to stop eating animal products at the same time, it would simultaneously lower their personal risks of infection, the risks of another pandemic, and it could hit the animal ag industries hard - who are some of the largest funders of the gop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

I’ve been doing my part of drinking stuff with oat milk and eating a plant based diet

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

In the last pandemic, we couldn't get people to wear a mask sometimes without them losing their shit.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I love the enthusiasm but the movement would immediately be labelled as woke and a lot of people would start eating more animals just to “own the libs”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Nah, we just need to lean into their toxic male fragility. Remind them it's super gay to have some animal's meat in their mouth. So juicy it slides right down your throat. Yeah, you enjoy that beef on your tongue, you slut?

If we really pushed that message, Joe Rogan would be vegan within a week.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The people who would do that would be putting themselves at greater risk when the next pandemic does break out. That's their problem - especially if they've been informed on everything they can do to help and protect themselves.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s their problem

Unfortunately, with how pandemics work, it would be everyone's problem.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

It already is, and they're already speedrunning us into the next one. All the more reason to focus on protecting who we can, and who is willing to not be an active harm.

[–] dparticiple 14 points 1 day ago

There is also a reputed new cat-to/from-human transmission vector for H5N1, which was briefly noted in a CDC report last week before being redacted: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/06/health/cdc-bird-flu-cats-people.html . NYT article may be paywalled, but details can be found in other media sources as well.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If it escapes under Trump's leadership can we call it the trump virus? Please?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Bird flu boogaloo

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Morbus Maga.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Corona 2 electric boogaloo here we come!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This would be much worse than COVID. Bird flu is far more deadly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

in the beginning yes, but as the virus mutates, the variant that spreads quicker will also be less deadly. like with covid too. not that it isn't dangerous now, but it was far deadlier in the early stages.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

in a country that could start acting against this virus right now with RNA vaccine research has probably closed down all those facilities

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The mask thing is going to be so funny again..... I guess .. ughhhhhhhhhhhh. Subscribe to the WHO if you haven't already

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I'd be more than willing to build special warehouses for the unvaccinated manned by doctors and midwives with tons of knowledge about holistic medicine and essential oils, get them out of real hospitals

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago

wouldn't doubt if this is musk and thiel, sowing chaos.

also wouldn't doubt if covid was them too.

just like how thiel dry runned a bank collapse with silcon valley bank. or musk dry runned doge with Twitter.

they dry runned h5n1 with cov19.

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