It’s wild the Christian religion is generally about love and tolerance (if you read the Bible), but the actual practitioners are some of the worst fuckers in American society
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the Christian religion is generally about love and tolerance (if you read the Bible)
No, if you read the Bible you’ll see a vengeful, genocidal, jealous, petulant god who’s very ok with slavery and rape. Not much love and tolerance there.
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As a Christian, I can honestly say I'm appalled at literally everything the current administration is doing. We're called to love others, not to judge them. There is a huge difference in saying you're Christian and behaving as one.
You really don't know very much (or want to admit) about the history of Christianity do you
They loved those heretics when they burned them alive.
That's not the same thing as the teachings of the NT though. I'm not saying Christianity is without fault at all here, but saying the message is equivalent to the behavior of zealots from another age is kind of silly
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You talking Old or New Testament? Because most of the arguments people seem to have with Christianity (from my experience, at least) come from OT rules/etc that became obsolete due to Jesus.
Unless you're talking more modern history...?
you grew your church at the tip of a spear, and at the sharp end of a sword. you made demons during the inquisitions. you made partners with the nazis. christians. don't make me fucking laugh.
So you're talking more modern history. I don't agree with the way Christianity has been forced on people throughout history. I don't condone the inquisitions, etc.
It saddens me, honestly, at how far from true Christianty most publically open "Christians" are. Forcing your beliefs on others, ridiculing those who don't believe the same as you, and not treating all of humanity with the respect and love the deserve are not actions of a true believer in Christ.
And I pose to you all those evil things are CENTRAL to the actions of a true believer in Christ, as they've proven to be, for the last 1700 years, that any fantasy about love, forgiveness, acceptance and peace is the fairy tale Christians tell themselves while they're forcefully decimating anyone that doesn't believe what they do
I like to point out that one of the first lessons the Bible teaches the reader is one of hierarchy and inherent supremacy over others. Eve is lesser to Adam, as all women should be to all men. Man is the dominator of the land, bending nature to his whims. All men are to worship a supreme being because he's bigger, stronger, more powerful, and these are respected traits held by any authority. It's baked into the values that some of us should be supreme to others, and the inherent violence of this philosophy can be used to justify wars and genocide, as has happened time and again.
Christianity is only good if you use confirmation bias to pick out the parts you like, but the whole text creates drones and fascists by design. I believe in God, but I would never in my life subscribe to Christian beliefs (not even getting into the open hostility the church has held against my particular section of belief throughout history that persists to this day).
It's worse than that. The first lesson is that God created Adam and Eve without the knowledge of good and evil. Then Satan tricked Eve into eating the fruit. She didn't know better until after she ate it, nor did Adam. But God punished her and Adam for doing something when they didn't know any better. So the lesson is that God is arbitrary and can change the rules on you at any time if he feels like fucking with you. And you are expected to say "Thank you Sir, may I have another?" It very much reinforces the view that the deity is a petulant child and we're his ant farm. And yeah, the hierarchical view and the idea of God as the Big Alpha Male in the Sky is part of it too.
I'd like to add that God, being omnipotent, knew they'd break the "rules," and went ahead punishing them just the same. Seems to me like the punishment was the point all along.
Very love. Wow.
the lesson is that God is arbitrary and can change the rules on you at any time if he feels like fucking with you. And you are expected to say "Thank you Sir, may I have another?"
Checks out if you define "God" as "the universe, time, all of existence". Probably one of the more useful and realistic lessons in the old testament.
I agree that basically all religion is bad, but for what it's worth, in the story Eve knows she shouldn't eat the fruit, and she isn't tricked, she's tempted. Those are different things. It doesn't make god any less of a jerk, but mistakes like that can sometimes make people disregard a whole argument because they think you don't know what you're talking about.
Let's talk about the behavior of self-identified Christians. Start from that. And there are some life-denying, antihuman parts in the NT too, just look at some of the Epistles. Paul (or at least whoever wrote the two Timothy epistles) was one nasty piece of work.
Jesus explicitly said He was not making any rules obsolete.
What He did was tell and show that OT laws are supposed to be read from the perspective that they are meant to help and protect the weak and "lesser".
And the OT is a history of God's love for humanity as much as the NT.
I was thinking more about the things such as animal sacrifices and temple rituals, which were law prior to Jesus. But he did say he came to fulfill the Law, thereby making those practices obsolete since He became the ultimate sacrifice.
There was actually a dispute among the early Christians about whether or not they were still subject to the Law. James, the brother of Jesus, who led the church in Jerusalem took the view that Christians should still follow it. St Paul, for whatever his motives might be (Josephus speculated that Paul was an agent of the Jewish elders whose job was to detach the Christians from the Jews, in hopes the whole thing would fizzle out), held the view that the Law was fulfilled and also that Christianity was open to Gentiles.
It seems you didn't read the bible ;)
That's pre-Jesus stuff though. You can find faults in the New Testament too but this thread is seriously missing the point I think
Not all of them. There are a few sects that are far worse than the others.
Very true
So is he going to eradicate himself? Because he's basically the antichrist...
How dare you talk about God Emperor rump like that! Straight to Guantanamo!
He's off to a bad start; announcements like that only serve to increase anti-Christian bias, mine included.
I see no statements from Muslim communities who helped him to grab this presidency. I would like to know their reaction to this.
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If you’re trying to root out antichristian behavior, you might start with the antichrist himself.
Too bad they won't address all the "Christians" that make it their mission to live drunk on cruelty and schaudenfreude.
If being Christian has anything to do with honoring and following the tenets of Jesus of Nazareth as written in the New Testament, there isn't a single Christian in the Republican party.
They use Jesus like a mask or totem to be on "I win morality" base while almost exclusively advocating inhuman atrocities like destroying families and doing the opposite of everything in their supposed own book they've clearly never read.
It's not like they try but fall short either. This isn't no true Scotsman, all they do is hate. When is the last time you've seen a Republican express love for anyone that wasn't rooted in angering (hating) their innumerable enemies? Is Jesus not love?
They don't believe in good or bad acts. They believe in good or bad people. Good people do good things. Bad people do bad things. They believe in Jesus, so they must be good. You don't, so you must be bad. Now any action against you in justified, cause they do good and you do bad and bad must be stopped by good. Doesn't matter what you're doing, and doesn't matter what they do to you. The morality has already been established.
It’s “Antichristian bias”. In other words, bias against the Antichrist.
Does this mean I can potentially create an organization that has the goals of flipping over tables that sell stuff at churches?
He also chased the money-changers out of the temple with a whip. Make sure to include that part too.
Good luck with that, fuckos.
Nobody expects the American inquisition
If you remove the anti, all you’re left with is the pro.
By design in this case. 250 years of a lie lol.
This is all totally normal. I'm sure the Democrats will convene a committee to write a white paper about it or something...
This is just a pivot for his blame game. People are finding out that immigrants, gays and DEI aren't the problem so he needs new fall guy.
totally sane.
DOGE will shut it down, right?
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Right?
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