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Australia has enacted strict anti-hate crime laws, mandating jail sentences for public Nazi salutes and other hate-related offenses.

Punishments range from 12 months for lesser crimes to six years for terrorism-related hate offenses.

The legislation follows a rise in antisemitic attacks, including synagogue vandalism and a foiled bombing plot targeting Jewish Australians.

The law builds on state-level bans, with prior convictions for individuals performing Nazi salutes in public spaces, including at sporting events and courthouses.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I used to be a person that believed very strongly in freedom of speech and that anything which was categorized as a philosophy or belief shouldn't be censored.

However, after seeing how hard fascism has taken hold in America, I'm beginning to change my mind.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Freedom of speech was created so citizens could feel safe criticising the government, not so they could spout hatred about people who were different to them. You can say whatever the fuck you want, up until it makes others unsafe, that doesn't mean oh they say bad words and im offended, or i don't like them promoting that candidate over the one i like that has christian* values. No, that means you words and actions intentionally incite hatred and violence.

All this hiding behind free speech shite thats been happening for a very long time has just given the shit cunts the courage to be shit cunts. And now because the US shat the bed and its been spreading the world, the rest of the world needs to sanitise.

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[–] [email protected] 209 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Fucking finally. Good shit Australia. Doing better than most. Watch Elmo throw a hissie fit. Pathetic

[–] pelespirit 84 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I hope he tests the waters there and Australia follows through.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Don't kid yourself. Australia is also an oligarchy where corporations get most of what they want passed within days/weeks, with little to no debate, while popular or inconsequential policies are given months or years of debate (so the murdoch/oligarch propaganda machine can distract the public and tell them how to think).

There is no chance in hell either major party would imprison an American dictators right hand man. They're both corporate whores at heart, with little/no virtue.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 days ago (9 children)

I feel like this copypasta is mandatory here:

(transcribed from a series of tweets) - @iamragesparkle

I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, "no. get out."

And the dude next to me says, "hey i'm not doing anything, i'm a paying customer." and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, "out. now." and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed

Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, "you didn't see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them."

And i was like, ohok and he continues.

"you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it's always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don't want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too.

And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it's too late because they're entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.

And i was like, 'oh damn.' and he said "yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people."

And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven't forgotten that at all.

I first saw this on reddit

Also this idiot performing a nazi salute outside court after just being sentenced, got busted. What a nimrod.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

“No charges to be laid over alleged Nazi salute made by officer at Victoria Police academy”

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/104796744

Cops get to be a little Nazi as a treat.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Good. This needs to be worldwide. They need to reeducate the people as to

A: Why the Nazis were bad beyond 'they wanna kill people!' Their utter disgust of science and technology, and how their social policies were actively fucking over their own people in addition to others. B: Just how incompetent the Nazis were, and were far from a hyperefficient machine. C: Just how bad they were at science and despite their demonization, West Germany was never fully denazified and how many former Nazi officers returned to work as politicians and military officers.

There is a plethora of books written before and during WW2 that showcased just how evil the Nazis were and how fucked their society was. They also need a review of Mein Kampf and how Hitler dictated it. Exactly like how Trump dictated the Art of the Deal to a writer and did not write it himself.

My suggestion of one book written during the Nazi Era is Education for Death by Gregor Ziemer. The society it showed was really, REALLY fucked. How anyone could think this was a paradise is beyond me. Most modern fascists, with their donut bodies and chinless faces would be the types considered feeble and probably sterilized as a 'charity'.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (12 children)

I don't see how mandatory jail time helps with "They need to reeducate the people"

People tend to get further radicalized in prison, not less.

If you want to Re-educate people you need to invest in education in the first place.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Send nazi pig Elon there on a one way flight.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

Hey now! Australia is probably sick of everyone just sending criminals there!

[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 days ago (15 children)

Sending people to jail is a great way to make sure they don't spend time embroiled in Nazi ideology on every level. Probably the best way to make sure someone never comes in contact with a single particle of Nazism, is to send them to prison.

(Can you tell I'm american?)

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 days ago (23 children)

Yeah, but most of the people I imagine pulling a Nazi salute "as a joke like Elon (were so hilarious haha look at those [insertracialslur])" might be deterred from pulling their shitty "joke" if it actually means prison time automatically. It doesn't matter if it's just like a week. Try explaining to an employer why you didn't attend the important meeting you had because you sat in jail for a week for a fascist "joke".

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Trump puts tariffs on Australia....

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 days ago (5 children)

And Musk to block Starlink from Australia.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago (20 children)

See, I am overall against any and all limits of free speech but...

Yeah. Context matters. And in current world context, good job Australia, hope outher countries take notes.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think it should be legal to do exactly one free punch on anyone who does a nazi salute.

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[–] rambling_lunatic 1 points 3 days ago

Would, say, an actor playing a Nazi officer in a movie be protected from this?

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