Russians actually call russian salad "olivier", after the guy who made it, but it was invented in Russia by a man that was born there, so I am not sure you can say it is French.
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seems Olivier was French/belgian as his name entail: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivier_salad
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucien_Olivier
I suppose he was of franco-belgian descent, but he was born in Russia, raised in Russia, died in Russia, and invented his salad in Russia as a chief of a russian restaurant.
Even the french agree: "Lucien Olivier est un chef russe d'origine franco-belge" - from Wikipaedia.
Also:
"Nationalité - russe"
Technically the French call the puff pastries most countries seem to equate to typically French (the croissant f.i.) after Vienna. Those are called Vienoiseries
Rotten cabbage rocks, especially the Korean varieties
"The Vast Atlantic Ocean" is 😙🤌
Cruel, heartless, totally deserved. Appropriate friendly banter.
What do you mean? That's just reality, isn't it?
Some say there are islands there that have food without flavour.
Nah, that's just misinformation.
"Ice cube salad"?
Our Finnish cuisine is so non-existent people can't even make jokes about it.
"You like black licorice? We can fix that."
I craaaave salmiakki sometimes. Keep a stash on hand for those times. Delicious stuff.
Better you than me.
Uuuhh... the starvation bark bread? I think there was a reindeer meat pizza that one some award.
Whatever, our own one thing is a vaguely modified American dish, and comes from Quebec, so you're not alone.
That's not cuisine, that's a dish. It's a Finnish dish, but the cuisine is technically Italian.
We don't have a cuisine in the same way in the North as mainland Europe does. Like do you know what the national dish of Finland is? Karjalanpaisti, Karelian stew. Which when traditionally made, has the following ingredients ONLY; beef cubes, pork cubes, a mildly salted pot of water.
Heat for several hours.
That's it.
Like people joke about how bland British food is but it's literally on fire compared to our traditional dishes. Like a shepherd's pie made with a red wine and even bland-ish British spices would be absolutely gorgeous compared to Karelian stew.
I think the national dish really reflects the Finnish spirit well though.
Mongolian "cuisine" is kind of the same. At some point you're far enough north meat is the only reliable ingredient. It's remarkable how well the Koreans and Russians have managed to make out, really.
I think the national dish really reflects the Finnish spirit well though.
In which way do you mean?
Well Mongolia is quite a bit further South than even the furthest part of Finland. Finland being around 59° and Mongolia 52°. But it's warmer here, more likely. Because we get some of the warming effects of the Gulf.
Mongolia is mostly desert and we have the sea and forests. My point here being there's tons of plants and whatnot. I understanding having to eat just horse if there's literally nothing else around, but... spices would've been more common in that part of the world though, so I wonder if the meat got some spices?
We didn't really even have peppers lol. Could've just thrown in some thyme and carrots and onions and whatnot at the least.
I've also heard a thing in which sometimes in hot parts of the world like say India, some of the heavy spice mixes originated because the lower classes would often have near spoiled meat and you wanted the spices to make up for the poor quality.
Here in Finland storing meat wouldn't have been much of an issue because of the cold.
I think the national dish really reflects the Finnish spirit well though.
In which way do you mean?
Half pigs, half cows, mildly salty and without any passion (spice).
LOL, that's funny. As an italian, I regret not having tried real french cuisine yet.
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Marie Antoinette?
What cuisine should that be?
A fillet of some kind.
Cake, maybe?
Eat the rich
Meh, "proper cuisine" is definitely accurate since it's our national pride, but most of the others don't really feel like french stereotypes. "Soggy pastry" for Denmark even sounds suspiciously american, I've never heard anyone say that about this country in France and I don't even know what it's referring to
Yeah as a Scandinavia living in france, all that part is totally off too.
The Meatball thing? Sounds amerikanish too, def not french.
The meatball thing came from Ikea 100%
We stole them bad boys from Turkey iirc.
Oh? Like the US and their statue of liberty? Or the Dutch and their tulips?
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"inventors" is the best diss i've ever seen for modern swedish food
i asked a friend from italy what she thought about our pizza and she basically said "as long as i don't think of it as pizza it's fine"
she and her bf would regularly hang out with the guy who ran the only italian pizzeria in town and they would shit-talk our food for hours. mad respect.
Authentic Italian pizza was apparently invented before the circle.
More like according an American person who identifies as French.
Chicken Tikka Masala was invented in the UK. I can't think of a single item of French cuisine I would choose over Chicken Tikka Masala.
I know it's part of your transition period and are forced by law to continue the 100 year war on a culinary manner.
I'd say that the proper French culinary colonialist equivalent to the Tikka Massala is the Bahn Mi sandwhich and that feels like a proper match for it.
But now come up with a dish that doeesn't take any inspiration from former colonies and I think most of them can be beaten by a simple onion soup
I can’t think of a single item of French cuisine I would choose over Chicken Tikka Masala.
you're insulting yourself and CTM more than french cuisine there mate.
Name a French dish superior to Chicken Tikka Masala.
coq au vin.
croque madame.
pain aux chocolat.
you even picked a curry that isn't even the best on the menu at INDIAN restaurants anyway. Lamb Rogan Josh, now that's a heavy hitter.
Yep. Better than all three.
The best restaurants I've ever been to have been in London. But, then, they rarely serve "traditional" English food. Dollar for dollar, the food in London is better than the food in Paris.
Outside of London - sorry, I agree with the map. English cuisine has a few of things they do better than anyone else, but the meals have not impressed me. I can't speak for the rest of the UK; I haven't visited Scotland or Ireland, and only drove a few miles in Wales by accident.
However. I will fight anyone for a Cornish pasty. I don't know where they were invented, but like all great foods they're both delicious and made with, like, 6 ingredients.
My credentials include more than a single trip. I've had 4 vacations in France, and 2 years lived for 2 weeks every other month in Paris. I've had two vacations in England, and lived for 1-2 weeks every month in London, again for two years running. I have a great amount of experience with restaurants at all price ranges in both cities, and a reasonable exposure to cuisine outside of the capitals.
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Lol, the French cannot even make wine as good as Italians can and they think they can touch their food?
It's ironic that they've missed out Ireland, throwing some great hunger shade.
I supposed the joke was that non existent GB was that they dont even do cuisine
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