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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/53880308

Summary

Trump plans to impose tariffs of up to 100% on semiconductors manufactured in Taiwan, aiming to push U.S. tech companies like Apple, Nvidia, and AMD to produce chips domestically.

The tariffs target Taiwan's TSMC, a key supplier, despite its partial U.S. production in Arizona.

Trump criticized Biden’s CHIPS Act for funding companies like Intel and proposed tariffs as an alternative incentive.

Experts warn the move could raise prices for electronics as most TSMC chips are assembled in Asia before export to the U.S.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago

That's... All of them, the dumb fuck. The factories we started building to being done production here, aren't finished yet. We're about to have the covid chip shortage all over again.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Didn't he just shut down American chip manufacturing, too? How can the broligarchy rule over us if we can't afford computers?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/future-chips-act-under-trump-admin

Sorry it’s a Fox link, but it was the top result.

Basically the dumbass is knee-jerk undoing everything Biden did because it was done by democrats, and of course doing it without thinking about the results.

So kill the CHIPS act because Biden bad, and slap tariffs on random shit because of something someone told him once that foreign stuff = bad and it makes him look strong, but never actually think that harming your own technology production + jacking up prices on your imported tech might be a shitty combo for your citizens and businesses.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I haven't heard about this? What'd he do?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Check out RememberTheApollo_'s Comment.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have the peak of intel technology, I can give you for a fair price. it's a 386sx.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not even a DX? Do I at least get a 387 in the deal?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

floating point coprocessors is the gateway drug to AI the devil wants you to take. Also, no lowballing... I know what I got.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

He seems to think that doing this will force manufacturers to build in the US, versus the Biden approach of incentivizing them to do that. What he doesn't realize this will do is raise chips prices and manufacturers will simply pass that cost onto consumers.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes because Apple and the likes will go biiiiig on investing now to make their own chips.

Obviously not. They will just wait a few years until Trump has officially and permanently fucked off from the white house.

[–] Shiggles 27 points 2 months ago

It makes me optimistic - he’s fucking with the money. Change can happen real goddamn quick when someone starts fucking with the money.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago

This is probably one of the biggest economic shot in the foot ever. Let's wait what his billionaire owners will order him to do to fix that.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I suspect this is part of his strategy to hand Taiwan over to the PRC, if "strategy" can be used to describe anything he does.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Why would he want that? I thought he hated China?

[–] Corkyskog 11 points 2 months ago

Does he, or does he just say he does? His latest Tariff plan tariffs Canada/Mexico more than China. China gave him all of those trademarks tok.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I don't know if he specifically wants that so much as he doesn't care if it happens.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

he wants to get letters from his friend xi. he likes authoritarians and wants to upgrade from kim.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

I.e. Trump wants to have no new chips in the coming years... ok.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cheap-ass Chinese AI yesterday and TSMC tariffs today? Big Ls for Nvidia lately.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Biden, in last few weeks, made a very aggressive anti-Nvidia move in limiting AI processing sales severely to all but US's very closest allies. Trump has antagonized most of these allies already. But datacenter costs in US going up very significantly from these new tariffs, in addition to forcing extremely expensive extortionist energy on America, is pretty sure to make datacenters outside of US far more profitable, and an extreme likelihood of a black market to both get chips to tier 2 and tier 3 nations, as well as to US consumers.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Adding to this windows attempts to end all support for windows 10, obsoleting a large number of computers later this year. I never thought I'd say this but Linux has never looked better....

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's almost like he is trying to destroy America and its relationships with all its allies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

same with greenland, canada, mexico, panama, WHO, HHS, NIH, etc., he's going to wreck the fucking country.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

God we're so fucked

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Also H1Bs...gone. Puff!

Man, at my last job I knew a bunch of guys doing such great job. Very dedicated people who were always very nice and super bright. We're gonna send them to India where they can develop the country and outcompete us.

That sounds fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

This would only work if the tariffs were bipartisan, and clearly here to stay, and even then only if the USA alone is a big enough market to justify building a factory for.

Otherwise companies will just wait it out.