NewPipe has been there for a long while, with the ability to watch Peertube videos.
However, with its strict no account policy, you aren't able to leave comments, for example. So, nice to have!
this post was submitted on 27 Jan 2025
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Now I want F-Druid to be a thing
Those rumours about moonlit orgies can't all be wrong. They are the f-druids after all...
Will only accept apps about moon phases and burning human sacrifices in giant wicker effigies.
Would be a fun name for a repo of ttrpg stuff, one pagers, etc
F-Droid?
Droid bad, druid good
There's a typo in the title
YES
It's like F-Droid, but for Pagans.
It's 2025, they're called Celts.
Wrong.
And I know what year it is, thank you.
That's news to me. Spent a lot of time in the pagan community when I was young and stupid. Never heard it ever being regarded as a derogatory term. Most pagans I knew wore it as a badge of honour.
Being in the UK, I associate Celtic culture as being primarily Scottish, Irish or Welsh. Although the term "Celt" does date much further back than modern Celtic traditions.
The Celts originally occupied the Iberian peninsula, Gaul, Germania, Ireland, and Britain. What we know of the Celts comes primarily from the Romans, since the Celts didn't have a written language. What little bits of writing remain from the Celts was near the early Roman Empire, and in vulgar Latin.
Of course, the Romans ultimately conquered a lot of those areas, into Britain up to about Hadrian's Wall. I believe they semi-conquered Cornwall and Wales, to the extent that they "ruled" those areas, but still left them generally to their own devices. Only Wales really retained its relative independence, as is evidenced by the fact that Welsh still exists, while Cornish is barely holding on after having become extinct and then revived.
The reason I compared "pagan" to "hillbilly" and "redneck" is because plenty of people wear those names with pride, too, even while many other people continue to use them in derogatory ways.
Like moronic millenial knuckle-dragger JD Vance.
The word "Celt" is largely meaningless. There were no such specific societal group as "Celts".
"Celts" refers to speakers of similar (though not the same) languages within a celtic language group which includes Gauls (Who became Germans), Celtiberians, who became Portuguese, the Gaels, who became the English and Irish, etc... etc...
Saying that "Celts" are a society is like saying Peru, Argentina, Mexico, etc.. are all one single people. (pro tip...they're not)
So no, "celt" isn't derogatory, and it certainly isn't a synonym for "druid".
They use Sah-main branches
It's like F-Droid, but for Pagans.
And Boomkin? 🥺
You cant login to accounts yet :( So for now the app is pretty useless to me
Ah, I came here to ask that question... If this is finally the version with log-in.... It isn't.
We have to be patient then. They've promised to add it. And Framasoft usually follows up on their promises. But looking at the commit log on the project page, they dont seem to be actively working on the Android app. It's mostly noise, translations and dependency updates there. Nothing that'd indicate someone is working on adding features. So it could take some time.
But you're not the only person waiting for this to be added.
A local account just for subscriptions would be dope.
Yes it’s very much a beta test.
Cool that they are working on an app, though.
Although I personally find the UI to be confusingz
I wish PeerTube was a reasonable alternative to YouTube but I have a hard time imagining it will ever be.
Yeah, I don't think so either. For lots of creators, YouTube is about earning money with ad revenue with their videos. And the audience comes to watch their videos. So unless we introduce lots of ads to PeerTube and pay the creators, it won't become an alternative to Youtube (in specific).
I think Peertube will stay it's own thing and not become a clone of Youtube. And as such it'll always target a different audience and have different content available. So it can't really become an "alternative".
Ideally the solution would be finding alternatives for creators to make money, sponsorships is one, they can make money on those no matter the platform and where they get viewers, same with support platforms like patreon and kofi.
The goal would be to watch videos there so creators have a reason to cross post and then support them in other ways, if possible, mentioning peertube as the avenue you watched them.
Cross posting to a peertube instance should be pretty light weight for creators and we should encourage it.
There's always the support via Patreon route.
Sure. I just think at that point it's no longer a "alternative to YouTube" since YT works a certain way and this changes quite a lot about the dynamics. It'd be more an alternative to something else, just not YouTube.
That's fair, but the number one complaint about YouTube is the ads, and I do think content creators deserve to be compensated for their time. Perhaps a way within Peertube to donate to the creator?
Yeah, PeerTube already has that. Everyone can add their info about sponsoring and it'll show up. I also think this is the correct path towards a good video platform. I don't think Framasoft wants to become a payment provider and hire lots of people to handle money, disputes and legal stuff, so this is the next best thing they can do... Just let the creators upload their patreon, ko-fi, buymeabeer or IBAN number, whatever they like. And all of this is already there for quite some time now.
Yeah, I wouldn't want to do payment processing either. Thanks for the information though, as I haven't really used Peertube since I don't use YouTube much.
YouTube is about earning money with ad revenue
If you watch anyone who actually discloses their income, adsense is usually a fairly small %.
Most of it comes from donations, direct sales, product placements, etc.
Do you happen to know anyone who disclose their income, and does both sponsorships and Adsense? I've tried looking it up but either it's old articles or the people are more tied to their community and don't really do sponsorings in the first place. I'd be interested to read some numbers... Ideally including all possible sources like advertisements, paid sponsoring and community donations.
Transport Evolved shares the info with Patreon supporters
LTT does long and detailed breakdowns periodically
I'd say it depends on your uses.
If you're an organization looking for a platform in which to publish your videos so that they can be spread in your newsletter/social media and embedded on your website, it's probably a very good alternative.
If you're a content creator who runs on donations and has a dedicated following already, it might be good. And as the fediverse grows, it will only get better.
For a lot of the content creators who live off engagement and clicks, it's much less likely to become a viable alternative. The kind of content people will watch for hours, but that nobody would ever consider paying for.
I think it's not about one platform replacing all of YouTube, but about providing viable alternatives for specific uses.
Might be wrong but doesn't majority of the money come from sponsors and such? I was led to believe ad revenue was just a nice little bonus.
Biggest issue probably will be how small it is so it would not be worth it to sponsors.
I guess you're right. Reportedly, ad revenue is getting worse all the time. I've tried finding some recent numbers from some channel but seems very few of them make their income transparent. I know one or two, but they don't do sponsoring in the usual way... But I guess it's true and lots of channels rely on sponsorships and Patreon these days. From what I read. That would certainly make it easier to switch to a platform that doesn't have ads in the first place. I kind of missed that. That'd mean it's down to the network effect. But I'd like to see some exact numbers. Ultimately, we'd need to cater for a lot of different creators, from Mark Rober to Kurzgesagt to someone doing it for fun. And ad revenue would have to be really bad, because lots of the popular and big youtubers earn their livelihood on the video platform. And even a paycut of like 20% might be unacceptable to them...
I think this is a really good point. If we now get the Fediverse bigger, and regular people start to have accounts on federated and interconnected platforms, we'd be okay without advertisements and invading privacy, if that's not the predominant business model anyway.
Even minor revenue cut is a revenue cut, that's true. The creators would need to be believers, or YouTube would need to do a fuck up.
Realistically though, best we can hope for for now is them crossposting to both YouTube and PeerTube
Neat! Thank you for sharing!
I wish tubular would get on there.
It's there in the Izzy repository
Great :)
For those who don't know what to do, choose add repository and give it https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/repo?fingerprint=3BF0D6ABFEAE2F401707B6D966BE743BF0EEE49C2561B9BA39073711F628937A
Tubular is an ad free YouTube app with Sponsorblock included.
I can see a client called P2Play that's been updated 7 months ago. What about that one?